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Bedrock of the Community
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I need that one for my Album.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I need that one for my Album. 7ish mil should probably do it |
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I need that one for my Album. I need one also, too bad they are only auctioning one.   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Meh! This is really just a fantasy coin that was produced illegally. It's no more than a token that serves to stroke the egos of fat-cat businessmen who want to be envied.
The only positive thing about this coin is that it has a story which has been turned into a legend.
At least Daniel Carr's fantasy coins are produced legally, and are attainable. I find them much more desirable.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Meh! This is really just a fantasy coin that was produced illegally. It's no more than a token that serves to stroke the egos of fat-cat businessmen who want to be envied. You were there when it was made? Clearly they aren't illegal. Nor is it a token that people stroke their egos with. I honestly dislike when people just jump in to trash something and the people that collect them where it just seems to be jealously. I've never seen anyone question the former owners (who has passed on) passion for coins aside from people that just jump in to be negative. |
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Pillar of the Community
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Meh! This is really just a fantasy coin that was produced illegally. It's no more than a token that serves to stroke the egos of fat-cat businessmen who want to be envied.
 with Baseball. Edited by SilverDollar2017
05/01/2018 11:27 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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You were there when it was made? Clearly they aren't illegal. Nor is it a token that people stroke their egos with. I honestly dislike when people just jump in to trash something and the people that collect them where it just seems to be jealously.
I've never seen anyone question the former owners (who has passed on) passion for coins aside from people that just jump in to be negative. The coin was struck without mint authorization--to me that makes it illegal. The fact that only people with scads of money to throw around can afford to own one takes it out of the real numismatic community and makes it a plaything of the fabulously rich. I'm not jealous, and I'm not trying to be negative. Just being realistic. |
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The fact that only people with scads of money to throw around can afford to own one takes it out of the real numismatic community and makes it a plaything of the fabulously rich. So because someone has money they're not part of the "real numismatic community"? You just proved my point. Quote:
The coin was struck without mint authorization--to me that makes it illegal. It's not illegal no matter what you say. |
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Pillar of the Community
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Since the government is not pursuing the matter (and it would be rather easy) like the 1933 double eagle, I would said that it is defacto legal.
I'm not going to work up a sweat over this.
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Since the government is not pursuing the matter (and it would be rather easy) like the 1933 double eagle, I would said that it is defacto legal. Just to be clear for those reading, it isn't defacto legal IT IS LEGAL. These has sold several times over the years. The legality isn't in question at all |
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Was fascinated reading some old threads from ats on these coins and thought I'd share some of what I came across. $750 was a lot of money back in 1943, but far from what they are valued at today. Quote: The Newman Numismatic Portal has invoices from Burdette G. Johnson, which includes 4 of the 5 1913 Liberty nickels (Newman kept the best example, which ended up in the Eliasberg collection) Of these, one went to F.C.C. Boyd. This is the coin that Farouk had and is the Norweb coin (currently in the Smithsonian). This coin sold for $1,000 and I think was considered the second finest. This coin is listed on an invoice dated April 22 1943: 1913 U.S. 5c NICKEL. Liberty Head Proof $1000.00 The other 3 all went to James Kelly for $750 each. I have 3 different invoices for these transactions and wonder if there is any way to tie these to the specific coins. 1) March 11th 1943: 1913 U.S. 5c NICKEL. Liberty Head Proof $750.00 2) March 11th 1943: 1913 U.S. 5c NICKEL. Liberty Head Proof $750.00 (this invoice also includes 3 Gobrecht dollars, 2 1851 proof dollars and 3 1878 CC 1/2 dollars. 3) March 17th 1943: 1913 U.S. 5c NICKEL. Liberty Head Uncirculated with proof surface $750.00 |
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Is it legal to individually own a 1933 DE? I really don't know, but both coins were struck under similar circumstances...one being OK to own the other illegal. The gubmint won't be standing at SB to confiscate yjis coin now will they?
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Pillar of the Community
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Okay, I stand corrected. I had read somewhere that the 1913 nickel was illegally produced, which is why it took so long to surface--the people who owned them didn't want to show them off right away for fear of being hauled in by the feds.
As far as it being a plaything for the rich, I was making the point that probably 99% of all numismatists do not have that kind of money. But you're right, it very well may be that owning this coin gives one a certain numismatic pleasure, though I think some of the rich people who own extremely rare coins may do so for the fame and for investment purposes, as much as for the fun. My opinion of course.
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As far as it being a plaything for the rich, I was making the point that probably 99% of all numismatists do not have that kind of money. The same can be said for a 5 figure coin and really a 4 figure one as well, how does that matter at all? You're not more of a collector for collecting out of your pocket and you aren't less of one for being able to afford the best. Someone's love of coins isn't determined by the amount or lack of money they have and you should attack people just because their coins are nicer than yours |
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You're not more of a collector for collecting out of your pocket and you aren't less of one for being able to afford the best. Someone's love of coins isn't determined by the amount or lack of money they have and you should attack people just because their coins are nicer than yours I didn't mean to "attack" anyone; if it sounds that way, I apologize. I was just musing on the whys and wherefores of reasons people collect coins. Edited by jpsned
05/06/2018 08:15 am
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