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A Grading Question

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 Posted 07/15/2008  3:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list
"In the 10th anniversary of our functioning, with the assistance of the British firm European Coin Company and with the packing company ECC Poland we are introducing in the fall of 2006 grading in our country"

So as I thought, they started fairly recently.

"We employ experts in Polish, German and English-American grading".
"Grading price. Coin value $0,5-$750 = $14.50".

Anyway, on the site, they do not state what is eligible for grading and what is not..
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 Posted 07/15/2008  4:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
I would assume then that they are commonly available there in Poland. I also saw under their grading link that they appear to have several different holograms. There seems to be some kind of an explanation for them but I don't have it figured out yet.

Could you drop me an email so we could discuss the possibility of you picking up some examples of this holder for me? You should be able to find my email address in my profile. Click my name above the avatar.
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 Posted 07/15/2008  4:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list
There seem to be no clear information about those 5 holograms.

Edit. The email keeps getting returned. Conder101, please try sending it..
Edited by DL20K
07/15/2008 7:17 pm
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 Posted 07/20/2008  7:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add leprecoin to your friends list

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since when is this thing even eligible for grading?


Its a free country, you can open your own grading company and grade pants buttons, zippers, or spare plugs if you like too
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 Posted 07/21/2008  04:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list
Recently, I've noticed an influx of weird slabs over here.
Till now, most of all graded coins were the local EEC/GCN (pictured above)and NGC or PCGS surfaced rarely. However, since about two weeks, lots of SGS appeared (all being MS70s of course) and these.

I'd like to ask you, as you probably know, what grading companies are these?

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 Posted 07/21/2008  6:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amazon99 to your friends list
DL20K, what are some respected slab holders in Poland? Also, where in Poland are you located?
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 Posted 07/21/2008  8:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xshift to your friends list
The UNC and ANI slabs are quite prevalent on ebay. As far as I know, they are along the same lines as SGS. You can pop the holders open with your fingernail, usually.
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 Posted 07/21/2008  11:07 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
HCGS Golden Dollar? MS70
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 Posted 07/22/2008  03:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list

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What are some respected slab holders in Poland?

NGC and PCGS, however rarely they appear There is only one company in Poland (the GCN) which is not respected at all. Okay there is said to be a second one but I've seen no slabs of it yet.


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Also, where in Poland are you located?

North-West. Not where the grading is done

xshift, thanks for the information!
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 Posted 07/22/2008  04:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amazon99 to your friends list
So I guess your somewhere near Poznan? That's the only one I can remember right now from the north west. I only remember it since my mom's from there.
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 Posted 07/22/2008  04:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list
I'm 3 hours from Poznan, but I'd say that yes, you are correct, as it is the nearest large city!
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 Posted 07/22/2008  04:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amazon99 to your friends list
I win. I always liked Poland, wish I could go back soon.
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 Posted 07/22/2008  04:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list
Nice to hear that, I hope that you will come back here someday!
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 Posted 07/24/2008  01:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
{quote]I'd like to ask you, as you probably know, what grading companies are these?
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In the first picture the first three and fifth ones are from ANI (American Numismatic Institute) a "fly-by-night" company that first showed up I think 8 months to a year ago. The third slab is a first generation slab from the company from before they started placing barcodes on the slab.

Slab number four (and the third slab in the second picture) are from Hallmark Coin Grading Service (Not to be confused with Hallmark Currency Grading Service which was an early service from the mid 1970's, or HALLMARK which was a respected company that operated from 1988 to 1991.) This Hallmark was a self slabbing company on the same lines as SGS and almost as much of a joke. I can't tell for sure but it looks like possibly two different generations of holder.

Slab six is UNC (United Numismatic Company or Certification I'm not sure which at the moment) UNC first showed up about a year and a half to two years ago. Another "fly-by-night" which I don't believe lasted too long.

In the second picture the first slab apears to be INB (International Numismatic Bureau) Another "fly-by-night" from over a year ago. It is using a Coin World shell for its holder.

The last one is still something of an enigma. I have seen several of these all with variations in the labels. The problem is the label design keeps changing slightly as do the initials and even the name the initials supposedly represents. I can't decide if it is one company that keeps altering their labels or three different companies with near identical holders and labels. (Which would almost certainly means they are connected in some way.)

I did get an email from you on the 15th, sorry I haven't answered it yet. I'm always behind on correspondence, and I've been in the hospital for most of th past week with a sudden illness. (In fact I'm still in the hospital, but I've been able to tap into their switchboard network and get back on-line now.)
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 Posted 07/24/2008  10:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list
Conder101, thanks for the full explanation. All of these are sold by one seller pretending to be a ''company''. So far, I haven't seen anyone buying them

No problem with the email, please answer when you can.
Sorry to hear about the ilness, I hope you get better soon!


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