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Calm down Grape - a FEW coins in the world and you want one to show up here? Somehow, IF someone has one of these they would not sit calmly by and ask questions from a forum
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and if I did in fact find one which who knows but id love to share my find with you guys regardless lol^^
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if is always better then not lol, regardless its a sexy piece lol
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01/29/2019 7:53 pm
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Most likely a slightly overweight planchet. Color is caused by toning.
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if is always better then not lol, regardless its a sexy piece lol Yes, and once again Grape - here's a notice - someone that really found a truly rare coin would not LOL it up! There was actually someone on here that found a truly rare quarter and , to put it politely, he was crapping his pants - and when it was verified he shared the pictures - I don't see this happening here. Experience is such a great tool - |
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and mark I laugh it up because I'm nervous of responds and if it was a rare coin that I found I wouldnt know because I'm not an experience coin collector like some, but thx for the pure thought of making me feel more nooby then I already am. hi5 to you mate.
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I'm trying my best to follow this topic, but get some what confused at points. Quote:
been trying to do some research on this, just asking thoughts, grams are right and also has Lincoln line on reverse was looking at stalks and such to see if mayhaps a fake. If grams are right, My first thought was ok, why is it in question? Because of a yellow copper tint? Quote:
well the reason I ask is because the grams on it is pretty high 3.9 Ok that weight seems a bit off. Quote:https://www.NGCcoin.com/news/articl...mint-errors/ for the 1942 error on the 20 and does show signs of IMDP on reverse On the 20 meaning what? Also the acronym IMPD is new to me. I see in above link NGC suggested a 1942 cent struck on an Ecuador 20 Centavos planchet. Wondering if that's what your referencing?  If so I question the NGC attribution or the reference I'm using. Seems the Philadelphia mint was busy producing coinage of numerous denominations for foreign countries this year. The Ecuador 20 Centavos as well as the Peru 10 Centavos (suggested) weight in at 4.0 grams, with a similar composition. My issue is the diameter of both. The Ecuador 20 Centavos planchet, by the reference I use shows to be 21mm diameter. That would not fit in the 19mm collar meant for US cents. Same with the 10 Centavos for Peru at 20mm in diameter. It might have a better chance, but I'm thinking both would show cramped up collar symptoms after strike. Just food for thought. Maybe blank originated from rolled thick US cent stock, or blank punched from wrong stock meant for foreign coinage. Harder to believe, but what the hey, check the diameter as an improper sized collar would need to be in the mix if a planchet or blank larger than 19mm meant for US cents was used. After thinking a bit more, if a larger diameter blank was ran through the upset process sized for US cents, would it might make it through too the diameter needed?  I need to stop bouncing this ball as I'm starting to make myself dizzy. Thanks, Doug. Edited by Halo1st
01/29/2019 11:56 pm
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That's a darned good point about the upset mill and one I have never considered.
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If so I question the NGC attribution or the reference I'm using. Seems the Philadelphia mint was busy producing coinage of numerous denominations for foreign countries this year. The Ecuador 20 Centavos as well as the Peru 10 Centavos (suggested) weight in at 4.0 grams, with a similar composition.
My issue is the diameter of both. The Ecuador 20 Centavos planchet, by the reference I use shows to be 21mm diameter. That would not fit in the 19mm collar meant for US cents. Same with the 10 Centavos for Peru at 20mm in diameter. It might have a better chance, but I'm thinking both would show cramped up collar symptoms after strike. More likely cent planchet punched from the peru or Columbian rolled stock. That would give you a planchet of the proper diameter but slightly less weight than the foreign coins would have been. Since they were to be 4 grams the slaightly smaller cent planchet at 3.9 seems reasonable. Quote:
After thinking a bit more, if a larger diameter blank was ran through the upset process sized for US cents, would it might make it through too the diameter needed? If the upsetting mill accepted it then yes it would end up the right diameter.. The question becomes how much oversize can the blank be before it simply jams the upsetting mill and doesn't feed in? Since the blanck should be aboutthe same size as the finished coin I doubt the upsetting mill would be set to accept anything over about 19.5 mm. Also a larger diameter blank probably wouldn't feed though feeding assembly to the upsetting mill. |
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The quickest way to resolve the gaggle of wrong-planchet questions is a specific gravity test. For both the weight and specific gravity test, scales should read to .01 or better. Eyez, would you be willing to determine specific gravity of your coin and post the result? This would be extremely helpful. Thanks! |
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I know Mark I was just linking the article for referance. That was a bit hostile.
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