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1817 Bust Half You Vs PCGS

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 Posted 06/16/2019  02:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hadleydog to your friends list
AU Details cleaned
It would not surprise me to see it straight graded, but I would be surprised if it stickered.
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 Posted 06/16/2019  04:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Keith67 to your friends list
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 Posted 06/16/2019  07:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smoke1439 to your friends list
Interesting analysis. I can agree somewhat with most of you posters. A little hint, one of you nailed the thinking and or action of the TPGs. I'll post the results this afternoon.
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 Posted 06/16/2019  3:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smoke1439 to your friends list
and the answer is.....

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 Posted 06/16/2019  3:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joecoin to your friends list
Hard to beleive PCGS could be so far off.



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 Posted 06/16/2019  3:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
And the winner is...jimbucks
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 Posted 06/16/2019  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
This piece has a PCGS Price Guide value of $450 in XF45 and it just brought $480+S/H at Heritage Auctions.

Want to see vastly different images of the same coin? Here you have it: https://coins.ha.com/itm/bust-half-...ption-071515
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 Posted 06/16/2019  6:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
I think they felt (rightly) that it was a decent coin overall but clipped the grade to reflect the old cleaning issue. It wouldn't bother many people, but it stands out to me.
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This piece has a PCGS Price Guide value of $450 in XF45 and it just brought $480+S/H at Heritage Auctions.

Want to see vastly different images of the same coin? Here you have it: https://coins.ha.com/itm/bust-half-...ption-071515


My pictures are much more accurate. One day I maybe I'll learn not to buy from a picture.
Greysheet bid $520, what a joke. Greysheet bid seems to have become the new retail.

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My pictures are much more accurate. One day I maybe I'll learn not to buy from a picture.
Greysheet bid $520, what a joke. Greysheet bid seems to have become the new retail.


I was afraid that was the case. I'd return it unless there's a huge financial hit on restocking.

The Heritage images make me scratch my head. While clearly the same coin the images are so different?
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EF cleaned...doesn't matter if it's just one quadrant that is cleaned...it's a cleaned coin! Nice details though.

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I think they felt (rightly) that it was a decent coin overall but clipped the grade to reflect the old cleaning issue. It wouldn't bother many people, but it stands out to me

Coinfrog in hand I don't think it would bother you that much. With the magnification and the way I lit the coin, which I did intentionally, really emphasized the scratches. This was a great example of how big auction houses, third party graders, and price guide publishers can possibly manipulate the market if they chose to do so. Under the appropriate topic we could go on and on........
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 Posted 06/17/2019  10:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
I agree with PCGS on this coin's grade.
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