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1964 D Roosevelt Dime - Doubling On Roosevelt Face (Hot Lips)?

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 Posted 09/16/2019  12:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list
Eye4Error, I see the doubling on the lips, so I think it could be. I would wait for others to chime in. Very cool find!

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 Posted 09/16/2019  12:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eyes4Error to your friends list
Redvernon - To answer your question:


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How could the same error occur at different mints?


I think the answer is that it would doubling on a master die - Master die doubling resembles a minor doubled die (hub doubling), but instead of being restricted to a single working die, it appears on many working dies (so could effect various mints).

This would be considered a variety (not error coin).
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09/16/2019 12:59 pm
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 Posted 09/16/2019  1:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eyes4Error to your friends list
Also the bridge of his nose is interesting... possibly caused from die clash?
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 Posted 09/16/2019  4:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eyes4Error to your friends list
Anyone else go some input for me? PLEASE & THANK YOU!
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 Posted 09/16/2019  4:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Redvernon to your friends list
Eye4Error thanks for the reply. Honestly I don't know diddly about coins. I recently got into metal detecting and found myself watching YouTube videos. One of which was about Roosevelt dimes of value. I had bought some silver dimes a while back and decided to see if I had a 1964D "Hot Lips" dime mentioned in the video. I ended finding this, a reverse double die, and a few dd rpm (I think) dimes. BTW I hope I'm using the terminology correctly. Anyways I was trying to find information on this dime and ended up here. I don't know what it's worth and there seems to be some confusion as the 1964d I read about was listed wdd002 or something and then it was decided it wasn't. You said it was a variety and I assume that is not the greatest designation. I was thinking of having it and the reverse dd graded but I don't know if it's worth the money.
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 Posted 09/16/2019  5:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eyes4Error to your friends list
No worries Redvernon... I have been doing this for a little over a year now I think... and still have lots of question and still learning! This is a good site to get familiar with all the things you can look for.

A variety is a good thing... There are varieties, which means that it is a minting error on the die that would cause the same effect on several coins struck at the mint or mints if it involves master die doubling... etc. Then you could also have error coins, which can include many happenings on coins which would have had to place in the mint.

Understanding the minting process is key to identifying variety and error coins. Like I said I still have a lot to learn, but I am getting more familiar and confident with the help of they many eyes and noggins helping me to understand what I am looking at on a coin.

I will let the PROs on here give more detailed, better and accurate info on your "Hot Lips" variety, as I am just learning about it as well ;)

We'll be learning about this one together

Here is a great place to look for references on this site... CoopHome
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 Posted 09/16/2019  5:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eyes4Error to your friends list
BTW... Redvernon

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 Posted 09/16/2019  5:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Evan7 to your friends list
Eye4error, it appears to be doubled to me. Hope more members will chime in
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 Posted 09/16/2019  5:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eyes4Error to your friends list
Just wanted to make sure I am getting comments RE: my coin the 1964 D - (pictured first).
That is the one I am inquiring about...

*** Not to be confused with the the follow up 1964 (P) - Redvernon posted... which is a nice "for sure" HOT LIPS ;)
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 Posted 09/16/2019  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eyes4Error to your friends list
Evan7 - I wish I could get some response too...

I haven't been on this site for awhile- life happens... But, I am pretty sure someone will be able to help confirm something soon...


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Eye4error, it appears to be doubled to me. Hope more members will chime in
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 Posted 09/17/2019  12:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HGK3 to your friends list
Not an expert on anything, much less Rosie's, but you seem to match up nicely with 1964-D 10¢ WDDO-002 from Wexler's website, http://doubleddie.com/1312740.html

Looking for die markers on circulated coins can be next to impossible, but my guess (and it's just a guess) is that you have a late stage coin. That might explain why the doubling on the upper lip is less visible.
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 Posted 09/17/2019  12:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eyes4Error to your friends list

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my guess (and it's just a guess) is that you have a late stage coin. That might explain why the doubling on the upper lip is less visible.


VLDS - That is what I was thinking, I just had not seen one with only the lower lip, but yes it seemed to match otherwise... just wasn't sure. That is why I posted to confirm.

I was hoping I would find some answers. THX for posting!
Hopefully I will get some more feedback?
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09/17/2019 10:51 pm
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 Posted 09/18/2019  7:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eyes4Error to your friends list
So I want to put this one aside in a holder. Guess I will mark it as 1964-D 10¢ WDDO-002 "(partial) Hot Lips - VLDS" or something like that... does that sound right?
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 Posted 09/18/2019  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
Does the markers match for your coin to WDDO-002 Eyes4Error? If so, then you have it. Might be a Very Late Die State example of it maybe, if you're missing some markers. Sorry if I didn't comment on it right away. I am not too familiar with Roosevelt varieties, so I just viewed it, but didn't comment on it right away.
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 Posted 09/18/2019  9:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eyes4Error to your friends list
It OK EV... I just hadn't been on here awhile and decided to check back in with some posts, I guess on a slow day (for community & uploading...lol)... but wasn't getting responses, so I kept trying to bump my post up in hopes to get some answers. But you and Coop and others I know were too busy to reply as well.

So thanks for taking a look

I will look over DDO-002 just to make sure ;) before marking it on the holder.
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