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You Vs PCGS - 1952 10 Cent Canada

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 Posted 10/24/2019  08:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CA_Coin_Hunter to your friends list
Bigger picture.
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Is this any better?
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 Posted 10/24/2019  09:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin-Flipper to your friends list
Its bigger by only 1mm
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 Posted 10/24/2019  09:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list
Should be at least ms65, maybe ms66 due to the toning.

Small picture does hamper the accuracy of my grade estimation.
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 Posted 10/24/2019  10:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alan to your friends list
Ms 66 I say that because I assume it was good enough to be sent in to get graded. Fully lustered though cantell if there's any abrasions on the surface
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You-Vs-PCGS---1952-10-Cent-Canada

Btw are canadian coin grading standards higher than in the US. Meaning if I take a coin which was, say a 65 in PCGS holder could it be graded a 66 by ICCS?
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The grading standards are the same. If you send it in for regrading 3 things can happen. Gets higher grade / gets lower grade / gets same grade. If the coin is worth resubmitting then you take your chances.
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 Posted 10/24/2019  8:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1cent to your friends list
Actual grade plus one point for color at PCGS. Either a 64+1 or a 65+1 depending on the condition of the surfaces.


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Btw are canadian coin grading standards higher than in the US. Meaning if I take a coin which was, say a 65 in PCGS holder could it be graded a 66 by ICCS?


Almost never. ICCS uses a 68 point scale, PCGS uses a 70 point scale. This results in MS grade decompression and slight upward drift at the high end of the scale.
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I'll say 66 as well.
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Reveal time!

It was graded a PCGS Ms 64. Undergraded maybe? You seem to grade it higher. But it is in an old PCGS holder. Should I take it out and sent to ICCS for a possible upgrade?

https://www.PCGS.com/cert/14704490
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I personally bought my ICCS ms-65 exemple for around 45$, this is a fairly avaible coin in Gem condition. Personally, I don't think it worth the risk to resubmit it to ICCS since the potential + value is too small.

It still a beautifull coin !
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Btw just curious. What makes you guys think it is a ms 65 or 66?
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Not worth the re-submission cost.
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Btw just curious. What makes you guys think it is a ms 65 or 66?


A (perceived) relative lack of marks on the coin. The problem with this type of toning is that it can be very good at disguising underlying marks, which PCGS would have seen with the coin in-hand. I see a line from the "A" of Gratia through the "R" of Rex, two lines on the King's neck, lines heading outward to the rim both above and below the nose, and possibly some roughness on the lowest part of the neck. It's impossible to tell if these are toning disturbances or actual marks on the coin from a static photo.

It has a solid 65 "look" to it (IMO), but if PCGS knocked it down to a 64 I'm not inclined to doubt their assessment.
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It has a solid 65 "look" to it (IMO), but if PCGS knocked it down to a 64 I'm not inclined to doubt their assessment.


Exactly. Always hard with MS coins when you can't rotate them in hand, but if you go to the PCGS cert page and look at the big picture the neck and cheek are likely what knocked it down. Beautiful coin though
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