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Bedrock of the Community
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I don't think it's toning. Companies did all sorts of whacky things to these quarters, and that includes selling gold-plated sets. You can still buy one, if interested: https://www.thepatrioticmint.com/st...ed-sets.htmlThe problem is that the plating job hurts any intrinsic numismatic value of the coin while not delivering any material value. So, people spent them as they are only worth 25 cents. In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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12/11/2019 02:49 am
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It does look gold plated to me. Check the edge. John1  |
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First it is not toning, I know that.
Second if you place these three coins side by side, the quarter above, a Dollar President, and a Dollar Sacagawea they look like they are of the same material.
The image does not show the the bright mint luster that it has.
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Well if you are sure it is the same material as the dollar coin we are going to need the weight of the coin to two decimal places. The only way that could happen could be if they punched quarter blanks from dollar strip. Since the dollar strip is thicker than the quarter strip the weight will be higher, about 7.41 grams. With strip thickness tolerance figured in between
7.14 and 7.7 grams. So get us the weight and get back to us. If it checks out we can go to the next step.
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The image does not show the the bright mint luster that it has. I was really hoping there would be a weight this morning. I agree is does look similar to color to a "golden dollar" but that does not necessarily mean it is on a dollar planchet. |
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 An accurate weight will narrow things down.  Edit: since the "golden" dollar is larger than the quarter, this could not have been struck on a dollar planchet given its appearance/alignment. It would have to be as Conder101 described, which is much less likely.  In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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12/11/2019 11:57 pm
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The only thing that exists and known is a mule. It's a quarter obverse and a sac reverse from 2000. The sacred planchet doesn't fit in the quarter collar so what you are displaying can't happen on a sac planchet. They also drastically reduced mintage of sac dollars in 2002, another thing working against it being what you think it is. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/200...quarter_muleThe muel doesn't have a reeded edge again can't street enough that the sacred planchet doesn't fit in the quarter collar. And the coin shown was struck inside a quarter collar because of the edge being there. It's toned, discolored, or plated. It absolutely doesn't display anything that you'd want or expect to see if it was a wrong planchet. For this to happen and look like this they would have to roll out sac stock as if it was quarter stock and punch out a quarter sized planchet then run it through the press. Highly unlikely to happen because they get the planchet already made for the sac dollars from the supplier. They don't roll them out or punch them out in house for sacs. Send it into ANACS for authentication it's the cheapest way to do it and you'll know 100% and not have it haunt you. I think it's some surface toning on a regular 2002 louisiana quarter from what I know and see in these pictures. It doesn't look anything like I'd expect to see if it was a sac planchet struck in a sac collar with a quarter die pair. It would have a huge rim and no reeding. And they weren't experimenting with different alloys in 2002. They had settled on the planchet for the sac dollar a couple years earlier. The experimental alloy examples are 1999 or 2000. Edited by Big-Kingdom
12/13/2019 06:28 am
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All of this is just one of the reasons everyone hates those new baby sized dollars.
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Ok, I have been at work and now on vacation. When I get back to work I will get the weight to 4 decimals. The Size It is physically small that the Susan B Anthony It is physically small that the President Dollar It is physically small that the Native American dollarAgain No toning it is VERY shiny, sorry if the image does not show this, It is very detailed so no outside plating of gold. I know what plating over a coin looks like because I was playing around and plated nickel over a copper penny for a joke. Yes I work in plating. So far From what has been answered I will say it is a learning experience for me. As far as the coin "Mule Coin" it has the correct Obs and Res for that quarter dollar. |
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 to the CCF! I'm leaning towards a plated or gold washed coin. Most likely one of these https://coinvalues.com/library/what...arters-worth If you know that the coin is an off-metal strike, you'll need to send it for certification or it's always going to be questioned. If it turns out to be a real mint error, the grading should be well worth it. I found a 2000-P Sacagawea dollar struck on a quarter planchet that sold for $2760 at Heritage, but it was an NGC MS-66. ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! 
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One thing you failed to mention was the reeding, but I can see it is reeded from the first pic. Toning doesn't mean it can't be "shiny" and being plated doesn't mean there is a noticeable decrease in the sharpness of detail. If you work in plating, then you know that there is a wide range of quality. In any case, I believe the weight will confirm that this is a normal quarter that has been plated. In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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12/15/2019 02:09 am
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As spruce mentioned, companies sold the entire State Quarter series in gold plating. IT'S PLATED. Don't sell the farm just yet. |
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One thing you failed to mention was the reeding, but I can see it is reeded from the first pic Quote:
It does look gold plated to me. Check the edge. John1 |
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Ok,
I have learned alot from this experience.
1) as Spence stated, include a image of the coin that is in question.
That is all 3 sides: OBS, REV, and side to show reed.
which would answer John1 and Spruett001 questions.
Now the images did not show what I was seeing. Very shiny and detailed.
I used my scanner for the images. Using a USB Microscope gave more detail but very bad on color.
How do you get a image the same way one sees it in front of you?
2) I need to check and state the weight of the coin.
At work I have a scale that goes to 4 decimal places. But I need to get one for home use that goes to 2 decimals.
Working in plating for the auto industry I had played around and nickel plated a penny.
I washed some of the details out which is why I did not think it was gold plated.
The details were as sharp as any other quarter hinting as to be stamped.
I found no point for current to plate, again to me pointing to being stamped.
On my phone I found a site that stated that they did test coins of different metals.
So having a "Quarter Dollar" with a "Dollar" metals was possible.
BUT, I lost the site and the information and found nothing any where else even the US Mint.
Which is why I posted on the forum. I figured That could not be the only two, mine and my brother in-laws in the world and some one here would have one. And get some info, not that I was going to retire on this one coin.
So the coin weighs in at 5.6813 grams not 5.67 grams.
The edge view shows the same color as the sides, not showing a copper core.
With this all being said I most likely have a gold plated quarter dollar that is worth 25 cents and just a pretty coin
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On my images I got it down to lighting.
I hope to get this right before my next coin question
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