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1942 D Lincoln Wheat Cent - Triple Struck Or Soft Die - I Dunno

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 Posted 01/08/2020  08:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list
I'll wait to comment. Probably would be much easier to determine in hand.
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 Posted 01/08/2020  08:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Over my pay grade.
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 Posted 01/08/2020  09:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Willburton to your friends list
Here's a guess. Triple struck first two through another planchet. One on top of another. This would leave the obverse blank? Maybe?
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 Posted 01/08/2020  10:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sosicoin to your friends list
What a magnificent find tropicalbats.... congratulations!

You deserve that coin to be authentic. I hope for the best for you... be waiting for Mike's comments...
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 Posted 01/08/2020  10:44 am  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list
Well, looks like there is hope as not one has totally come out and said it's a "nope". It'll get slabbed if authentic and into my counterfeit collection if not, so a neat keeper either way.
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 Posted 01/08/2020  10:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
I bet it's not a genuine error coin. Probably one that's been faked.
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 Posted 01/08/2020  12:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
I agree. Altered with a soft die. Note the rims how they are affected near all the altered areas. On the reverse, note the first 'S' on States? While it appears that the some of that device is raised, note the area outside of the outline of the added device how the devices are flattened?
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 Posted 01/08/2020  12:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
I'm going to go with a soft die alteration as well.
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 Posted 01/08/2020  1:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list
Here's the 1946p.

In hindsight, it is easy to see how mine was elongated when mashed with the other coin/token. Damage on the obv also and only done once.

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 Posted 01/09/2020  06:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list
On your 1942, is that a raised wheat stem between the O(ONE) and URI(URIBUS)?
Yours also has very little rim damage. Only a minor amount by the base of the left wheat. It seems like a lot of work to go through making soft dies for a 1 cent coin. It just seems the rim damage is too minor for all that is going on with this one to just be PSD or soft dies.

Hope you get it figured out conclusively if that's even possible.
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 Posted 01/09/2020  06:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TwistedTrader to your friends list
Looks fake to me too. The S is not on top like some of the letters appear.
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 Posted 01/09/2020  11:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stoneman227 to your friends list
I have no experience with multiple struck coins .
What I do note on this coin is if it were a mint produced error then the final strike would have been an in collar strike and at least one of the initial strikes was an out of collar strike.
I doubt a planchet with an off center strike would be able to fit into the collar for an additional in collar strike.
Considering this , I don't think this a mint error
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 Posted 01/09/2020  12:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
What is the purpose for creating a soft die? It is used to alter a coin to make it look like an error coin. A normal coin is pressed with a soft die and alters, just one side of the coin. (If the die soft die is hard enough, it can push out the opposite side of the coin) using a soft die also makes the devices not looking mirrored like when a coin is vise squeezed into another coin.
How to tell if a soft die was used? On the image I posted earlier, the areas where the open devices are squeezed onto the coin will make it look like these areas are raised. But why does it look like that? Because the raised devices on the coin will be flattened by the fields on the soft die. I'll post it again so you can see that:
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They are normal coins that area altered to attempt to be sold as a mint error coin. (which they are not, just PSD) So they are fakes, as they are altered to look like something it not.
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 Posted 01/10/2020  10:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list
The reverse face was clearly struck with a soft die. One-sided multi-strikes are extremely rare, with the face struck by the anvil die almost never involved. The soft, blended overlap between primary (genuine) and secondary (fake) design elements is a dead giveaway.
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 Posted 01/10/2020  11:04 pm  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list
Thanks Mike! It seemed that is the way this was heavily drifting but good to have a final word on it. Another fine example for my counterfeit files then.
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