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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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I'll wait to comment. Probably would be much easier to determine in hand.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
Over my pay grade. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2558 Posts |
Here's a guess. Triple struck first two through another planchet. One on top of another. This would leave the obverse blank? Maybe?
Edited by Willburton 01/08/2020 09:24 am
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Valued Member
United States
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What a magnificent find tropicalbats.... congratulations!  You deserve that coin to be authentic. I hope for the best for you... be waiting for Mike's comments... 
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Well, looks like there is hope as not one has totally come out and said it's a "nope". It'll get slabbed if authentic and into my counterfeit collection if not, so a neat keeper either way.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
75143 Posts |
I bet it's not a genuine error coin. Probably one that's been faked.
Errers and Varietys.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
62064 Posts |
I agree. Altered with a soft die. Note the rims how they are affected near all the altered areas. On the reverse, note the first 'S' on States? While it appears that the some of that device is raised, note the area outside of the outline of the added device how the devices are flattened? 
Edited by coop 01/08/2020 12:17 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I'm going to go with a soft die alteration as well.
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Pillar of the Community
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Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups. We need to consume them regularly to thrive and grow.
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Pillar of the Community
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5797 Posts |
On your 1942, is that a raised wheat stem between the O(ONE) and URI(URIBUS)? Yours also has very little rim damage. Only a minor amount by the base of the left wheat. It seems like a lot of work to go through making soft dies for a 1 cent coin. It just seems the rim damage is too minor for all that is going on with this one to just be PSD or soft dies. Hope you get it figured out conclusively if that's even possible.
Words of encouragement are one of the major food groups. We need to consume them regularly to thrive and grow.
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Valued Member
United States
305 Posts |
Looks fake to me too. The S is not on top like some of the letters appear.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2376 Posts |
I have no experience with multiple struck coins . What I do note on this coin is if it were a mint produced error then the final strike would have been an in collar strike and at least one of the initial strikes was an out of collar strike. I doubt a planchet with an off center strike would be able to fit into the collar for an additional in collar strike. Considering this , I don't think this a mint error
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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What is the purpose for creating a soft die? It is used to alter a coin to make it look like an error coin. A normal coin is pressed with a soft die and alters, just one side of the coin. (If the die soft die is hard enough, it can push out the opposite side of the coin) using a soft die also makes the devices not looking mirrored like when a coin is vise squeezed into another coin. How to tell if a soft die was used? On the image I posted earlier, the areas where the open devices are squeezed onto the coin will make it look like these areas are raised. But why does it look like that? Because the raised devices on the coin will be flattened by the fields on the soft die. I'll post it again so you can see that:  They are normal coins that area altered to attempt to be sold as a mint error coin. (which they are not, just PSD) So they are fakes, as they are altered to look like something it not.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The reverse face was clearly struck with a soft die. One-sided multi-strikes are extremely rare, with the face struck by the anvil die almost never involved. The soft, blended overlap between primary (genuine) and secondary (fake) design elements is a dead giveaway.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks Mike! It seemed that is the way this was heavily drifting but good to have a final word on it. Another fine example for my counterfeit files then.
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