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Let's See Some Antoninianii...

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 Posted 12/16/2008  4:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sir Ferrari to your friends list
I don't really care about mints, just after the helmeted w/spear bust. I'll check out this "Vcoins" and see if they have what I'm looking for.
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 Posted 12/16/2008  4:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list
www.vcoins.com is a combined virtual coin store with many worldwide dealers ranging from large to small. It has a search facility across all the stores and if you enter "Probus helmet" with "All keywords" ticked then you should be presented with about 60 or so coins matching these criteria.
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Martin
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 Posted 12/16/2008  4:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sir Ferrari to your friends list
Wow, that's an amazing site, thanks for the link.
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 Posted 01/13/2009  07:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list
After the short lived dynasty of Carus and his family came the Diocletian who quickly formed the first Tetrarchy.

The Antoninianus is still the main currency and remains the silvered bronze coin identified by the radiate crown.

The range of busts used at this time is not as great as it was during the reign of Probus though there is still quite a decent variety.

Heading this Tetrarchy as Augusti are Diocletian and Maximianus Herculius.

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With Galerius and Constantius Chlorus as their appointed Caesars.

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In A.D. 294 Diocletian undertook a major reform of the coinage and with this we see the last use of the Antoninianus.

The following coin is from the last issue of these coins produced in Lugdunum during A.D. 294.

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The coinage reform introduced the Follis and the radiate crown continues in limited used on what we know as a radiate fraction and occasionally on some later coins from the dynasty of Constantine.

I have skipped over many reigns during this brief history of the Antoninianus and I am sure that there and many examples that could be posted to fill in some of these gaps. I know that I could fill in many of them.

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Martin
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 Posted 01/30/2009  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list
I'll keep this topic alive with some of my better purchases.

Probus Antoninianus
Obv:- IMP C M AVR PROBVS AVG, Radiate bust left wearing imperial mantle, holding Victory on globe in right hand
Rev:- VIRTVS AVG, Soldier standing left, holding Victory and spear, left hand on shield.
Minted in Lugdunum (//IIII) Emission 5 Officina 4. End A.D. 277 to start A.D. 278 (Bastien)
Reference(s) - Cohen 821. Bastien 258 (7 examples cited). RIC 111 var (Not listed with this bust type in RIC).

This is a scarcer bust type as are most of the coins from the 5th emission. I only have one other example of this bust type in my collection and it isn't as nice as this one.

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Martin
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 Posted 02/05/2009  12:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nuggethill to your friends list
Love your Probvs Martin the full silvered Antoninanus's look great and are hard to find in that condition so good on ya mate also I was going to show mine but these put mine to shame
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 Posted 02/15/2009  5:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add atlashealth to your friends list
Thanks for the crash course in ancients...you are a great contributor to the FORUM!
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 Posted 04/28/2009  11:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list
I missed out so many emperors on my run through the life of the Antoninianus. I thought it might be worth going back through some of the ones I missed out...

Ants of Gordian III abound and they are very affordable and provide a great starting point to Roman coin collecting.

There is production from Roma and Antioch. Gordian also produced the last of the denarii.

There is a huge variety of reverse types and can provide sufficient collecting interest to keep a collector going for quite a while.

Obv:- IMP GORDIANVS PIVS FEL AVG, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
Rev:- VIRTVTI AVGVSTI, Hercules standing front, head right, holding club on rock and lion skin
Minted in Rome
Reference:- RIC 95, RSC 404
Weight 4.37 gms. Dimensions 21.77mm

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Obv:- IMP GORDIANVS PIVS FEL AVG, Radiate, cuirassed bust right seen from the rear
Rev:- FORTVNA REDVX, Fortuna seated left holding rudder and cornucopiae
Minted in Antioch. A.D. 242 - 244
Reference:- RIC 210, RSC 98a
Weight 3.88 gms. Dimensions 21.51mm

With the distinctive style being a great differentiator between the output of the two mints.

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Martin
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 Posted 04/28/2009  11:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list
And the ladies are well represented too. They start with Julia Domna when they are much scarcer that the denarii through to times when they are the norm.

Here we have an Otacilia Severa Antoninianus
Obv:- M OTACIL SEVERA AVG, Diademed draped bust right on crescent
Rev:- SPES FELICITAS ORBIS, CONCORDIA AVG, Concordia seated facing left, holding a patera and a cornucopiae
Minted in Rome.
Reference:- RIC 126. RSC 17

Note that the Radiate crown (Radiate as in Sol i.e. the Sun) is replaced with the bust sitting on a Crescent (Moon). Which acts a a denomination mark for the Ants of the ladies.

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Martin
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 Posted 04/28/2009  11:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list
You didn't have to be Emperor or Empress either. The coins were also minted in the names of their heirs.

Phillip II Antoninianus
Obv:- M IVL PHILIPPVS CAES, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
Rev:- PRINCIPI IVVENT, Philip II standing left, holding globe and inverted spear
Minted in Rome.
Reference:- RIC 218d. RSC 88

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We can also see when the Caesar became Augustus and this helps us with the chronology of the coins.

Phillip II Antoninianus
Obv:- IMP M IVL PHILIPPVS AVG, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
Rev:- AETERNIT IMPER, Sol advancing left, raising right hand and holding whip
Minted in Rome.
Reference:- RIC 226. RSC 6.

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Martin
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 Posted 06/14/2009  04:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list
Another coin to try and keep the thread going.
On the face of it, it is not a special coin but it is special to me.

Obv:- IMP C M AVR PROBVS P F AVG, Radiate draped and cuirassed bust right
Rev:- FIDES MILITVM, Fides standing left, holding standard in each hand
Minted in Lugdunum (//III) Emission 6, Officina 3. A.D. 278 - 279 (Bastien)
References:- Cohen 257. Bastien 276 (7 examples cited). RIC 78 var Bust type C (Not listed with this bust type in RIC)

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The coins with the longer "P F AVG" legend from this issue seem scarcer that their equivalents with the shorter legends.

This coin is in quite good condition, probably gVF or maybe even aEF for wear (though I find grading hard to do with ancients). The coin is nearly completely silvered though the silvering has been lost on the highest points exposing the bronze beneath, quite possibly as a result of the cleaning process. It is struck on a good sized but slightly oval flan resulting in some legend loss. There is some flatness on the head of Fides, not through wear but lost during the strike due to lack of metal.

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Martin
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 Posted 06/19/2009  9:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add willieboyd2 to your friends list
Here's some of mine:

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Coin details:
Coin: Valerian I Billon Antoninianus - Victory
Obverse: Radiate bust right, draped
IMP C P LIC VALERIANVS AVG
Reverse: Victory standing left holding wreath and palm
VICTORIA AVGG
Catalog: RIC V 124 - Struck AD 254 - Rome mint

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Coin details:
Coin: Claudius II Gothicus AE Antoninianus - Victory
Obverse: Radiate draped bust right
IMP CLAVDIVS P F AVG
Reverse: Victory running right holding wreath and palm
VICTORIA AVG - Exergue: S - Mediolanum (Milan) mint
Catalog: RIC 171

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Coin details:
Aurelian Antoninianus - Sol Captive
Obverse: Radiate and cuirassed bust right
IMP AVRELIANVS AVG
Reverse: Sol standing left, right hand raised, holding globe, captive at foot
ORIENS AVG - Exergue: S (Serdica mint)
Catalog: RIC Serdica 276
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 Posted 08/13/2009  10:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list
It is nice to see some other Ants.
I have recently added the following coin to my collection:-

Tacitus Antoninianus
Obv:- IMP C M CLA TACITVS AVG, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
Rev:- PAX AVG, Pax advancing left holding branch and transverse sceptre
Minted in Siscia (Q in left field)
References:- RIC -. La Venera -. Estiot p. 368, specimens in Vienna and Sirmium Hoard.

There are no examples of this coin in LaVenera though there is an equivalent coin with the Q in exe, LV 1799 (2 examples cited, 2234-2235). The usual type is Pax standing.

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Come on there mus be more people with some Ants in their collections out there!

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Martin
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 Posted 10/18/2011  06:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eddop to your friends list
A little correction on the person of Magnia Urbica:

Magnia Urbica (wife of Carus, mother of Carinus and Numerian)

In fact she was the wife of Carinus and probably mother of
Nigrinian.
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 Posted 10/18/2011  10:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list
Thanks for the lesson, very informative
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