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Can Anyone Help Me Grade My Silver Coins And Give Me Some Advice?

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 Posted 09/08/2020  10:00 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
Average circulated coins . As stated many cleaned coins , minimal value
and very difficult to sell except as bullion silver .
Low Mintage is meaningless if there is little demand .
High grade ( which these are definitely NOT) Early Cyprus
Is easy to sell , coins like yours will gather minimal interest .
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 Posted 09/08/2020  11:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chronos to your friends list
I checked PCGS population page , these are quite rare to find ,many are graded even they are not in MS or AU condition
check this :https://www.PCGS.com/valueview/cypr...148281&h=pop
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 Posted 09/08/2020  11:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Honk to your friends list
Thank you for the great link chronos. Will definitely look around more in this great source. Population reports are important.

Two of the coins I own was sold for €750 each, in XF condition though, so I don't think my coins are worthless in VF condition. Another coin I own was sold in June 30 (VF) for €70. Also, if you do an advanced search on ebay you see that Cypriot coins around this era is being sold almost every third day, so I don't think there is minimal interest either, but rather a decent interest. At least if you look on ebay.
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 Posted 09/08/2020  1:43 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
Then try your luck on ebay or elsewhere.
There is not a single coin your picturing
That comes anywhere near European VF .
Best of Luck !
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 Posted 09/08/2020  2:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Princetane to your friends list
Interesting group, sadly the high catalogue prices are likely to be from a 1980s or 1990s catalogue judging by typeface, the minimum condition in that catalogue is VF.

Your coins are mostly VG to Fine or Average circulated, they are not bad but probably on average 25 - 50% catalogue value of the VF price and then real retail is half of that so your $200 coin becomes $25 or $30.

In all you probably have $100 or $200 worth - around €100 or so, the silver value would be high around €8 per 18 piastre coin.

I find the portrait of Victoria interesting, its not very flattering, but I guess since the coin is dated 1901 and she was only alive for 6% of that year, she could not really register her lack of amusement at that portrait.

I have a set of Cypriot stamps going back to 1878 and are familiar with currency then. Basically 40 Para = Piastre, and 180 Piastres = One pound sterling, it was basically borrowed from the old Turkish Pound which was 100 Piastres (In Egypt and most colonies, but Kurus in Turkey itself)

Britain also only leased Cyprus until 1922 as Turkey remained overlord of it and full colonial status only came in 1928.

In 1955 they switched to a new currency of 1000 mils = 100 cents - 1 Cyprus Pound and in 2008 joined the Euro family along with my other favourite stamp country - Malta.
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 Posted 09/08/2020  3:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Honk to your friends list
Princetane: Thank you for an awesome post. I didn't knew that Queen Victoria lived only 6% of that year. That's very interesting.

No, the screenshot is actually taken from a Krause catalogue from 2019 (!). The 46'th edition.

I have thousands of stamps from that period (1881-1924) as well and love them. I collected those since I was a kid as well.
Malta is also one of my absolute favorite stamp countries :D

Cheers!
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 Posted 09/08/2020  9:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Loruca to your friends list
You're getting some pretty downer comments on this thread,
Overall, your best bet is by far ebay, Cypriot coins tend to garner exceedingly good prices there, and have quite a following, likely upwards of 60-65% of catalog value.
Your coins would likely ALL benefit from a bath in acetone, the "black stuff" is not oxidation or toning, but dirt, getting it off can only benefit those coins.

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 Posted 09/09/2020  05:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Honk to your friends list
Thank you for the kind response Loruca.

Yes, I agree that cypriot coins have a good following on ebay. It's not difficult to do an advanced search of sold "cypriot coins". Cypriot coins are being sold there everyday.

I just wasn't sure if it was dirt or not and I absolutely don't want to clean coins if it's not dirt. I've been hearing my whole life to never clean coins.
Are there any good tutorials of cleaning the dirt on YouTube?

Thank you for your time.
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Are there any good tutorials of cleaning the dirt on YouTube?


I tend to stick with acetone and a tooth-pick - can't to any real damage that way.
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 Posted 09/09/2020  11:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Honk to your friends list
I think the darkness is because of my phone camera. Here is a scanned photo of some of the coins (#9-12) I took a couple of years ago. Do they look better in this picture?

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 Posted 09/09/2020  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HGK3 to your friends list
I think the comments about lack of interest in your coins are probably not correct, but I do think your catalog values are too high.

For example, check out this link:

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fr...H_Complete=1

An 18 Piastres from 1907 sold last month on ebay for $97.00 with 15 bidders. Good news is 15 bids show a good deal of interest, bad news is $97.00 is far below the book value.

Numerous 1901 18 Piastres sales are also showing up for coins in similar condition, but prices are in the $20 - $40 range.

If the catalog you're using is pre-Ebay or pre-internet get rid of it because ebay wrecked the accuracy of all those old catalogs, except for very rare coins.

ebay sold listings are the best way to determine the value of ungraded coins these days. Just way too many data points to ignore.
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Thanks for the response HGK3. I appreciate it.

I definitely agree with you. Do you think the last scanned picture I posted here is a more accurate and appealing than the first ones I posted taken by a phone camera?
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 Posted 09/15/2020  10:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Princetane to your friends list
Honk you photos above are much better, but better photos show up how worn these coins are.

Notice that King George has a lot of wear on him, these coins are VG to near Fine.

For Fine, you would expect a fully visible crown band across his portrait. VF the central diamond should be sharp

For EF the pearls either side of the diamond should be sharp and discerned. Should be some lustre

For AU, it should be a full lustre with no visible wear.

For UNC it should dazzle your retinas.


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This is the portrait of George at a bare VF/high Fine level - now compare that to yours. If anything its probably a more Fine level - but its a South African half crown this coin and they have a notoriously high level strike on the King.

Still you can see the detail level is much higher than your pieces.


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This is EF - AU, so you can see your coins fall well short of this mark.

Condition is crucial and sadly with the overheated silver price all except the 1901s are really worth melt only.
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