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1923 Peace Dollar (Unusual)

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 Posted 01/23/2021  09:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
There is no "top layer" to peel back. The coin is a solid alloy. An acetone soak is a good idea.



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 Posted 01/23/2021  09:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list
Very interesting.
At first glance, it looked like something on the surface, but ....
It looks like the light is coming from about 9:00 and the glare along the edge under the T (LIBERTY) does make it look like the area is incuse (not raised like an adhesive).

There appears to be an incuse area under the chin as well that seems to have the same dull grey toning. I'm wondering if this could be struck through some type of foil or metal.

The area under the chin would have come off long ago to have toned like the rest of the coin.
The brighter area would have come off more recently.

Can you provide an image of the reverse please?

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 Posted 01/23/2021  11:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rothery to your friends list
If not glue on the surface then Something acidic could have been spilled on the coin and then ate into the surface. The harsh cleaning lines on the coin may have come from someone trying to clean it off.
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 Posted 01/23/2021  1:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add suipakpaikungfu to your friends list
Looks like it's been harshly cleaned to me.
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 Posted 01/23/2021  3:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kahawai to your friends list
Nope not harshly cleaned at all, none of the coins I inherited has been cleaned, I read some somewhere about those lines in it.
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 Posted 01/23/2021  4:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kahawai to your friends list
here is the back and Smat it is an s


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 Posted 01/23/2021  5:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kahawai to your friends list
I have alot more of tbese coins
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 Posted 01/23/2021  5:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list
Acetone is your friend. Suggest not scratching the coin. If possible, please post close-in, high resolution images. May help us better see what's going on.
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 Posted 01/24/2021  01:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kahawai to your friends list
Ok will do!
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 Posted 01/26/2021  12:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smat45 to your friends list
Sorry about the pics...just using my USB microscope.

The rest of the coin is very unremarkable maybe EF-AU. When I first found her...thought it was nail polish...so she soaked in acetone for a day...and when nothing happened...I just threw her in a flip.
Zoomed in on the only area in question that looks similar to Kahawais' coin...if I run a toothpick over it...from the silver to the copper/pinkish color...it drops down.
she weighs 26.7g
From the side pic...almost looks etched? maybe some kind of acid...idk?
Well that's what I got...

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Lets hear what it might be...?

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 Posted 01/26/2021  1:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bump111 to your friends list
Definitely looks like epoxy or some other material that has hardened onto the surface. A long acetone soak may loosen it up - but you will probably notice that the area underneath is a different color since it has been protected / affected by the material.
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 Posted 01/26/2021  4:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smat45 to your friends list
I already did the acetone bath...but nothing happened...?
On the side pic...if you were to gently drag a toothpick from the edge to the area in question...it would drop down (incuse)...it's not raised on the surface.
I'm just responding to Kahawais' post about a similar Peace dollar that I have. I was questioning if maybe there was a chance that there may have been some sort of improper alloy mix (Thanks Mr Frog...I called it "like a lam" peel) since the area is not raised...?
Maybe some kind of acid...idk? But when I saw his coin it reminded me of mine...and both being San Francisco mint marks kind of made me think of any correlations between the 2...?
Let us know what you think...
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 Posted 01/26/2021  11:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list
The fine granular surfaces look etched, similar to an acid-treated Buffalo nickel. A brief soak in dilute nitric acid might have done this. If a little acid was allowed to pool on the surface it could create the areas of deeper erosion.

From a numismatic standpoint the coin appears ruined. It still has silver value, of course.
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 Posted 01/28/2021  04:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smat45 to your friends list
Thanks for the replies...acid does make sense.

I just find it interesting that both our coins are from San Fran and have random large incuse "pitting"?

I think it's just a bullion coin now too...last year when Ag was down I bought a couple of rolls of random dates for $17 apiece and this was in there hidden away.

She's in a flip and I'll just keep an eye out on the board to see if any similar Peace dollars show up to discuss...?

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 Posted 01/28/2021  11:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add STTScott to your friends list
Man .. you people are like the Columbos of this forum &
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