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The way the TPGs grade early copper I think it could be anywhere from EF45 to MS61 on a slab. I do see some fantastic detail showing no real wear points, some softer areas and a few old scratches, maybe grades EAC 40/55 net 45? In a PCGS holder hmmm, that's a toughie. AU55?
I may be way off base here but I almost went MS60.
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A little flat on the forehead hair. Veins missing on some leaves on reverse.
If not a weak strike,I'm in at XF40.
Weak strike, AU53.
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Few hours left.
This coin has sparked a huge difference in grades and I can't wait to give the answer, because that'll likely cause another whole talk.
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This. Is. Just. Stupid. I'm not sure what else to call it, just plain stupid. I paid UNDER VF-20 book price for this! How? I'm astounded. I expected this to go for high VF money. I graded this XF and possibly as high as AU, how the heck did PCGS come to a VF-25? Only 1 person said below XF and they said it'd be VF-35 at the worst! I have no idea who had this slabbed but they got robbed. When I say wait for a choice coin, deals like this are what I'm talking about. https://www.greatcollections.com/Co...CGS-VF-25-BN Edited by GrapeCollects
02/02/2021 8:59 pm
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I'm still jealous.... great pickup!! Just wish you would have sent me the link for this one BEFORE the auction ended....we could have bid each other up into XF money  |
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I still think it deserves 30, but either way, a super example.
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To show just how silly this is. Red is what I paid, blue is "Avg" price, green and gold were the average grades given by you all, and purple was the highest given. The point I'm trying to make is what I've preached the entire time I've built this set. Don't buy an accurately graded coin, buy one undergraded or superior for the grade.  |
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coin is better than the grade - nice purchase.
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Buy the coin not the holder!
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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I assume buying undergraded coins is only possible at auctions. I cannot imagine that any coin dealer would sell this coin for VF20 money.
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with that hair detail someone messed up big time at PCGS. either they had little experience with early coppers and saw strike as wear, deducted way too much for weak strike or was in a hurry to get out of there that day. I think you stole this one Grape. at worst this is a nice XF coin. nice buy
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When you get the coin in hand, please post some more photos. I had the coin a VF35 because the reverse looked VF30 with wear on the leaves and corrosion near the rim with a scratch over the R. The obverse looked XF 40 as I took the back of the hair as strike and front hair as wear. The front of the bust shows wear but the coin was struck off center and no rim to protect the front of the bust. There was also a hit to the rim.
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I assume buying undergraded coins is only possible at auctions. I cannot imagine that any coin dealer would sell this coin for VF20 money. Not always, my 1882 Shield is a great example. Bought off ebay in an NGC MS64 Fat Holder, received a Gold Bean and is currently at PCGS for crossover, I fully expect a MS66. Quote:
I think you stole this one Grape. at worst this is a nice XF coin. nice buy Thanks! Quote:
There was also a hit to the rim. scratch over the R Saw both an wasn't really concerned. |
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