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Bedrock of the Community
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If it were legit, there would be 100's of thousands of these out there and would have been reported back then with something that looks that obvious. There has been no report of this happening, so I still feel it is a damaged coin.
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Pillar of the Community
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I took some additional photos that show the D more clearly. I have this posted at CONECA attributions services so I'll update when possible.   "Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCLStruck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burrFloating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978 |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Yes, please let us know what they say. Bonne chance!  |
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Pillar of the Community
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Well, I got a response from CONECA that is similar to what I have heard here that it is damage of some sort. I thought my last photos were pretty definitive but oh well. Still have yet to hear back from J.Wexler.
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCLStruck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burrFloating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978 |
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Pillar of the Community
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If it were the OMM, you should still be able to see the vertical bar of the D above the lower serif. Well, with the help of a cactus spine I was able to reveal the vertical bar. Even though it is apparently an OMM and probably a new listing, it still may not be listable due to the coins condition. This is perplexing to me but it is what it is. I believe circulation flattening (top inner serif) and Die Deterioration is creating an illusion of the D being punched into the S.  |
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Pillar of the Community
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If that mark nearer the center of the mintmark is what you are calling a vertical bar, that's almost the exact same outline you highlighted in your previous pictures. And I still have the same opinion on it: that's way too small to be a D mintmark.
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Pillar of the Community
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On OMM-001 the D is smaller than the S. This seems to be in that ballpark albeit with heavy circulation flattening and different rotation. Also the S may have slight RPM enlarging making look bigger.
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Pillar of the Community
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May I toss out another idea for discussion? Here is the OP's pic, with color removed and an area circled:  This area looks like added metal. Could all or most of this be the combination of a well-placed minor struck through fragment, followed by PMD?  |
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I LOVE Hawaii!!!! Seriously, I do! I just hope one day I can visit there.  |
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Pillar of the Community
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"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCLStruck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burrFloating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978 |
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Woah...those photos are something else. Besides from the resources Coop has provided, I'm not sure if I've ever seen such a detailed and closeup photo of a mintmark before. Perhaps I'm not getting out enough but jeez!
CoinHI, this is a tricky one. I'm not entirely convinced from either side if I'm being honest. I certainly see how this could possibly be a OMM, but there are the important points others have brought up, from Tanman, Coop, etc. I'm also familiar with how damage, or errors can cause interesting effects that nearly perfectly replicate varieties.
All in all, I'm not sure, nor am I qualified enough to determine an answer on my own. However, certainly hold onto it, perhaps send off the actual coin eventually to some experts so they can see it in hand, rather than just the photos.
Whatever it is, it's a fasinating discussion piece, no doubt about that.
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Pillar of the Community
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Those are some REALLY COOL PHOTOS!!!! I almost felt like I was looking at Google Earth in 3D!!!
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks SilverCents, I'm hopeful these new photos will prompt a closer look by the attribution services, we'll see.
Thanks Bumpkin, these photos are pretty cool, I agree!
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Bedrock of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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I Have to agree. And to add to It, the 'curve' of the 'D' is connected to the lower serif of the 'S', as if it is actually part of the 'S' and the Incuse 'D' Is just damage.
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