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Quote: It's not a proof coin, there are imperfections. Proof is not a condition; it is a minting process. As you all know I am not good at grading, but I don't think it would grade above MS66. I am thinking MS65. John1 
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Based on the pictures, this one might make it to 67.
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i cant see anything on this coin that would preclude at least a MS67 grade unless the photos are not 100% accurate. in fact MS67+ would not surprise me. typically you would see some small ticks at least on the rims. I'm not seeing here. the strike is even across all devices on both sides and appears to be well centered. when you get above 66 these are the little things that make a difference.
the difference in price between 67 and 67+ is significant. PCGS is not showing any grades above that and only 43 coins at 67+
Edited by panzaldi 12/20/2021 08:50 am
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Post-war Lincolns are graded pretty strictly, but you're in the ballpark.
The obverse spotting and the tiny digs on the reverse probably reduce the chances of a "67+" designation.
I'm at 66+/67, luster dependent.
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Golly Miss Molly you finally snagged a 67 or 67+ . 
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Quote: Post-war Lincolns are graded pretty strictly, but you're in the ballpark.
The obverse spotting and the tiny digs on the reverse probably reduce the chances of a "67+" designation.
I'm at 66+/67, luster dependent.
Thank you so much for the information. This is the small things I need to master, if there is such a thing! The TPG'S are professionals. To look at a coin for at most 30 seconds on each side the 20 seconds under a loupe amazes me. The surface of the coin seems to be like silk or satin. I carefully swirled it around at every angle to catch a hairline. I saw nothing. The graders must have some type of special light . A 75 or 100 watt lightbulb in a dark room is what I did. So many (color and marks I mean) 67 Lincolns look different from each other. When you are old like me I can't wait years to build up experience. This type of onfo helps me refine my search. Thanks so much
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Are you going to send it to PCGS? John1 
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Quote: Are you going to send it to PCGS? I am currently going through several rolls and seperating the coins (if any) that seem to be absolutely mark free with great luster, great strike and 0 hairlines or hidden marks. (of course if they are hidden then I won't see them either) then maybe . I hope to use forum members to give me their opinion. then maybe. Is this one, a coin I should submit? Realize I will make the decision. I don't want any member to think they would be giving me bad advice.
Edited by grospoisson 12/20/2021 4:19 pm
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I agree, MS-67. I can't tell from the photos if it would come in MS-67RB or MS-67RD. PCGS, in particular, has been picky about RB/RD lately.
Nice coin!
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I'm in with the ms67+ crowd....nice find.
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Quote: I agree, MS-67. I can't tell from the photos if it would come in MS-67RB or MS-67RD. PCGS, in particular, has been picky about RB/RD lately.
Nice coin! Darn coin microscope, I can see everything well but of course color is way off. I don't want to edit anything. The picture is what I am also looking at with coin in hand. The difference is that the coin is kind of golden satin, if that makes cents oh! I mean sense. Man I find myself hilarious. My students don't LOL
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I have been looking at this coin every day since I posted a picture, then went back and looked at the actual coin. I then went to every PCGS coin graded ms-68 in the fifties. A 1951-d Lincoln and a 1955-s, the only two that received a ms-68 grade and this coin holds up to both of them. From contact marks to rim damade to luster to full strike with no hits on the letters or numbers. There are two miniscule carbon marks on this coin but I saw carbon marks on the other two. These marks are magnified 20 times, so you get the idea of being small. 20 times pwr scope makes things look huge. My guess what is PCGS will give me a MS-67 or if I am super lucky a MS-67+, then I will have to resubmit to regrade or ask for a reconsideration. If this happens, they will charge me the 1 % upgrade fee (if it upgrades at all) for the new value in addition to the resubmission fee and shipping and handling. In this scenario PCGS will make an additional 100 bucks to God knows how much. It took me all of 4 months to realize how the game is played. In the event an angel appears, and I get a MS-68 how do they determine the value? What would be the best way to sell this coin? If a miracle happens and I get the exceptional grade, I could sell and buy my 1909-s vdb in 65 and the 14-d in 63 and the 09-s in 65. Since this would be the first 54-s in 68 what kind of price to accept? Look I know I will have to worry first about what grade I get. A 67 1954-s is only worth 140 bucks 67+ is only around 400 bucks I will hold on to the coin if I don't get a high enough grade, I believe. Hoping for a miracle! Maybe I will catch them on a good day!
Edited by grospoisson 12/29/2021 11:41 am
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If you pulled the one and only 68, it would be a miracle. Since none exist, PCGS will only make an estimate and may not show on their website. My guess it would turn out to be a $5000+ coin because the top registry guys would fight for it on something like ha.com.
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Edited by BadThad 01/06/2022 7:10 pm
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The dies always sucked on the 54S, so I think 67RD is a solid acceptable grade.
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