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Bedrock of the Community
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There are so many Kennedy DDOs for this date when also taking into account the two REV types of the flared or straight G in FG. I could not find a reference for the TI and TII REV that lists all the varieties. So I once started to try to catalog them by looking over all PCGS pics of all the 1964 P&D halves they have pics of. Although I put a lot of time into it, I admit the project is undone and on the back burner for now.
After the ones I collected filling up an entire album page, I decided enough was enough for the time being.
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Very cool pick! I agree a very underrated series of doubled dies. You can get darn strong Doubled/tripled dies in this series for cheap, and on large coins too. Well done!
-CH27
Collector of U.S. Coins, Varieties, and Colonial Coinage
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@Earle if you want I can send you by PM an name and address of who start to do this. It is same person who publish the Rev varieties for quarters. Me I study those but just study and if it is I give the studies to who want to publish. IMO 1964 has 4 masters. PS The FG is one factor but are others also. The TPG's do not care about, they in general do Market Grading and not Technical Grading. So this it is on those days. Edited by silviosi
03/17/2022 1:43 pm
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@silviosi
I just sent you an email. Thanks for this offer :)
How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash? Download and read: Grading the graders Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halveshttps://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2 |
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1964D FS-103 my latest addition. Nice example!  |
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Thanks CH27 and jbuck and everyone for all the comments. I would love to have a full page or a full book of all the varieties Earle42 and silviosi but The 4 or 5 strong ones I have will have to do for awhile! Thanks for looking!
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Earle42, when you talk about a list of Varieties for the 1964 Kennedy series, James Wiles had a list for the complete 1964 Variety series (The CONECA Master Listings), which included Master Dies, Proofs, Business Strikes, and RPMs. There was a total of 111 listings.
1964 Proofs - 32 DDOs, 3 MDOs
1964 BSs - 4 DDOs, 2 MDOs
1964-Ds - 19 DDOs, 2 MDO's
1964 Proofs - 22 DDRs, 3 MDRs
1964 BSs - 4 DDRs, 2 MDRs
1964-Ds - 4 DDRs, 2 MDRs
1964 RPMs - 12
In the last 40 plus years I have put together examples of all but 2 of the listings, 64PR DDR-025, and 64D DDO-016.
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Earle42, when you talk about a list of Varieties for the 1964 Kennedy series, James Wiles had a list for the complete 1964 Variety series (The CONECA Master Listings), which included Master Dies, Proofs, Business Strikes, and RPMs. There was a total of 111 listings.
1964 Proofs - 32 DDOs, 3 MDOs
1964 BSs - 4 DDOs, 2 MDOs
1964-Ds - 19 DDOs, 2 MDO's
1964 Proofs - 22 DDRs, 3 MDRs
1964 BSs - 4 DDRs, 2 MDRs
1964-Ds - 4 DDRs, 2 MDRs
1964 RPMs - 12
In the last 40 plus years I have put together examples of all but 2 of the listings, 64PR DDR-025, and 64D DDO-016. But if I am not mistaken, there is no reference for the type I and Type II REV on all of these correct? Former pic I posted of a (terrible - needs new pics!) graphic I made of the two types:  And...after doing all the research I did, I have noticed there actually is variety of the straight G that does not look like it has a tiny vertical split in the top of its upright as in the picture. The un-split straight upright is very crisply a straight and squared off top. I just don't know if die wear would make the un-split G look like the split one like the one in the above picture above. I also have no idea if the TDOs and QDOs have both types of REV. How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash? Download and read: Grading the graders Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halveshttps://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2 |
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In the last 40 plus years I have put together examples of all but 2 of the listings, 64PR DDR-025, and 64D DDO-016. And I agree, those are the Two toughest ones to find. |
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I ordered this War Nickel to fill a hole in my un-circulated collection of Jefferson's. Paid $54.00 for MS60. Found it to be a DDO, sent it off for Certification and came back as a minor DDO but it was slabbed as a MS66.... I'm happy with it. |
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Early maybe will help you this pic, Right it is a new die and second an aging die.  |
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Thanks Silviosi.
BTW - I answered your email. If you did not get that one either, please check your junk mail folder. My email program says both of my emails were sent.
How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash? Download and read: Grading the graders Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halveshttps://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2 |
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I have never heard anyone use the terms Type I and Type II to describe the straight G and flared G. The terminology I always see used is RDV-001 (straight G) and RDV-002 (flared G).
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Me I like this denomination. One reason it is show example two different design of the same year on FG and second I like more say type A,B etc. which will show same design for many years. This type A,B C etc. easy could be combinate with I and II. Example 1964 Type A-I or 1964 Type A-II. RDV is OK also, but at one point could mixt up us.
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I have never heard anyone use the terms Type I and Type II to describe the straight G and flared G. The terminology I always see used is RDV-001 (straight G) and RDV-002 (flared G). I admit I have no idea where I picked it up either LOL! Its just all over my notes this way and not sure why! Although its faster to type Ti or TII than flared or straight? Maybe I did it myself. Its been awhile now so I just don't remember. |
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