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1878 Philly Morgan Need Advice For Grade

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 Posted 05/27/2022  09:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Solo to your friends list
thanks again...
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 Posted 05/27/2022  10:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list

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Underlying 8 tail feather design shifted left with four talons on left and right shifted left by width of one toe, extra toe at left of eagle's left foot,


Taken from the VAM-30 reverse die description. This would be viewers left of eagle's left foot.
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 Posted 05/27/2022  10:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Solo to your friends list
thanks dave700x it is aplly to 7 tf also?
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 Posted 05/27/2022  10:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
from a grading standpoint these photos are are pretty pathetic. either the photos were manipulated to hide the surfaces or the surfaces have been stripped off on both sides. the coin could be AU58 or maybe as high as MS63 and a details designation is highly possible
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 Posted 05/27/2022  10:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Solo to your friends list

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from a grading standpoint these photos are are pretty pathetic. either the photos were manipulated to hide the surfaces or the surfaces have been stripped off on both sides. the coin could be AU58 or maybe as high as MS63 and a details designation is highly possible


is it offer for $100. I had a plan to add her to my collection. what do you think?

Thank you for your advice Panzaldi.
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 Posted 05/27/2022  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Solo to your friends list
Thank you for all advices, appreciate.
I think it's clear, this Morgan is Vam-30.

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 Posted 05/27/2022  11:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list

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thanks dave700x it is aplly to 7 tf also?


The "Underlying 8 tail feather design" refers to all of the reverse die design elements not just the number of tail feathers. The 8tf reverse design was modified with the 7tf reverse design and some of the 8tf design elements remained. The extra toe is from the 8tf design.
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 Posted 05/27/2022  8:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Solo to your friends list
i see...
Thank you very much dave700x, you're the man!

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 Posted 05/28/2022  08:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list

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is it offer for $100. I had a plan to add her to my collection. what do you think?


$100 would be full retail for a non-problem coin in AU58.

i would pass on this one. its the most available of 87's. you can do better and without decent photos of both sides if it's less than 58 you would be overpaying for it. you have no idea what these photos are hiding.
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 Posted 05/28/2022  09:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
Spike Eye!

Need better photos as stated but looks AU details/cleaned or way overdipped. $100 is way too much, it is a popular VAM but not a particularly rare one, and you can buy problem-free Unc slabbed examples of the same VAM for $150 or less.
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 Posted 05/28/2022  10:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KauaiHawaiiGuy to your friends list
I have nearly 300 Morgan and Peace dollars, and most were won at ebay auctions, so I'm quite familiar with ebay auctions and with sellers and sellers tricks at ebay.

Taking good pictures can sometimes be challenging, but taking fair or at least clear and bright pictures is not, and when a seller offers very dark pictures (as your seller has), or pictures at a slant or angle, or where some of the coin is in shadows, that's generally done to hide something about the coins condition that they don't want you to see. And a seller that is trying to hide something about a coin is a seller and a coin you need to avoid. It's possible that you may miss a good one now and then because the seller just sucked at photography, but as they say, better safe than sorry.
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 Posted 05/30/2022  07:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Solo to your friends list

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$100 would be full retail for a non-problem coin in AU58.
i would pass on this one. its the most available of 87's. you can do better and without decent photos of both sides if it's less than 58 you would be overpaying for it. you have no idea what these photos are hiding.


Thank you Mr. panzaldi for you advice. I take you advice.


Well Mr. paralyse I'm afraid I can't post another picture, because I cancelled to take it

Agree with you Mr. KauaiHawaiiGuy will safe for the best.
300 make me jealous

Many thanks for all advices and time to stop by and read.

God bless you.

Will start hunting and learn

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 Posted 05/30/2022  08:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
Solo, I'm glad to see that you are posting possible purchases here before buying. until you learn what you are looking for this is a good practice to get others opinions.
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 Posted 05/30/2022  09:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Solo to your friends list
Yeah panzaldi, the economy still up and down, but it's hrd to keep my self when I look something beautiful
Had to be smart to manage it.

Glad to be here to panzaldi. Learn a lot here, though sometimes language is the first problem for me.

i'll try to give the best I can base on my knowledge for CCF.
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