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How Can I Not Get Ripped Off On Ebay?

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 Posted 07/03/2022  5:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list
I had the opportunity to buy a complete dansco collection on ebay for about 1/3 retail price. First, the seller had the auction categorized under bullion, so it didn't get the traffic it needed. Second, they didn't picture all of the coins. I contacted the company outside of ebay, got the pictures, and was ready to bid. Once I attempted to place a low bid, with seconds left on the auction, ebay prevented me, and an error message came up. Apparently I was blocked from bidding for no reason, and there is nothing they could do about it. I would've won it, and it was a $1,500 potential loss.

I quickly contacted the seller and ebay, and both said "welp, there is nothing we can do". ebay customer service was terrible, I am not happy about their quality.
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 Posted 07/03/2022  9:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list
well, don't shop at ebay would be a good start, but knowing the coin you are interested in and studying the coin for sale would be a good start too.
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 Posted 07/04/2022  1:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list
I think there is a lot of good advice already ....

Most important is to do your research on any specific coin you want to buy. Find other "comps" that have actually sold on ebay, and that tells you whether the offer price is fair or not (also taking into account shipping).

There are a lot of coin dealers with large feedback numbers and very high percentages. Those are generally signs of a trustworthy seller.

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 Posted 07/04/2022  1:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DaRukus660 to your friends list
thanks everyone. very good WISDOM here!!!

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 Posted 07/04/2022  3:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list
There's always the advice from a cheesy 1980s movie ("War Games"):

"A strange game. The only winning move is not to play."
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 Posted 07/05/2022  08:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
all these comments are great

#1 know your series.
#2 avoid inferior photos
#3 if the coin is slabbed, grade the coin yourself. TPG's are not always correct
#3 post on CCF for comments
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 Posted 07/06/2022  09:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AverageMercEnjoy to your friends list
I would just avoid ebay unless you are looking for very specific things. A lot of ebay sellers tend to be straight up slimeballs looking for profit and suckers.
I only buy from Reddit and Instagram anymore.
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 Posted 07/06/2022  09:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jafo50 to your friends list
I occasionally sell some of my duplicate coins on ebay and I feel what is most helpful to both the buyer and myself is a clear description of the coin and hi-resolution photos. If you point out any flaws the buyer can make an informed decision as to purchase or not.

I would also look at sold sales prices for a particular coin series to get a feel of the average selling price for the item I'm interested in. A seller's return policy is a good reassurance that you have a backup should the coin not be as depicted.
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 Posted 07/07/2022  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LandonM to your friends list
There are three ways you can get hosed on ebay.

1) Seller non-performance- the item just doesn't get shipped.
Check feedback, use your gut. If they've been doing this for 19 years and have 99.6% feedback, you're fine.

2) Inadvertent seller fraud- the seller unknowingly sells a fake or counterfeit coin.
Caveat emptor. Stick to TPG for ANY key dates or reliable sellers who would likely have a Sigma for bullion.

3) Deliberate seller fraud- the seller knowingly is selling fakes.
Don't buy from the account that has 43 feedbacks accrued in the past 2 weeks, all for .01 cent items, trying to sell an unslabbed 1909S-VDB in mint state condition for $500 that he ' inherited from his uncle'. Don't buy the $15.99 American Silver Eagles. No, the guy in Russia really doesn't have a trove of circulated 1948 Canadian Dollars, they're forgeries. Common sense can go a long way, but every now and then you run the risk that a credible seller is going rogue, or 'dipping their toes in the water' of fraud, ie, most of the coins they sell are legit but they salt in a few fakes knowing they'll get away with most, then just apologize and plead ignorance when they get caught. Very little you can do about the latter.

I will say this- just don't buy key dates that are not slabbed, period, and compare the number with the picture.
You can buy high quality struck fakes of most every key date from China pretty easily, more sophisticated fraudsters use the darknet where there's a full array of high quality fakes, fake slabs and labels, holograms, etc. Its a minefield out there. In my opinion, the fake issue is worse than people are giving it credit for and a lot of people who believe they have such great expertise in spotting fakes they're immune, have fools confidence. Some of these fakes require a credible, specialists eye.
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 Posted 07/08/2022  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sir_Nummalot to your friends list
On ebay - by their ratings and how many trades they've got through without gettin kicked out....also by what they write on ebay and what sort of things they say about a coin. I would guess that generally speaking, it's the same as for anything else! Can you spot lies?
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 Posted 07/08/2022  7:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumismaticsFTW to your friends list
You need to educate yourself.

It's that simple.
You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think.

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 Posted 07/09/2022  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DaRukus660 to your friends list
Thank you everyone for taking the time out of your day to help me out. One day I will be able to pass this wisdom on.
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 Posted 07/10/2022  09:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captaincoffee to your friends list

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I only buy from Reddit and Instagram anymore.

Not sure I understand rejecting a platform with buyer protections in favor of anonymous platforms with no protection. I can understand some people only wanting to deal in-person with LCSs or known dealers, but I think you are much likely to get scammed and have no recourse on Reddit/Instagram/Facebook Marketplace/Etc than on ebay (where you can always put in a claim for the item not being what was pictured/described).
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 Posted 07/11/2022  12:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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I think you are much likely to get scammed and have no recourse on Reddit/Instagram/Facebook Marketplace/Etc than on eBay
I agree. There are understandable reasons to avoid ebay and none of them justify using using any of those other venues instead. In other words, if you think ebay should be avoided entirely, you should probably avoid all eCommerce activities (a valid position for some).
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