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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Like you said, not all silver is created equal. Nothing beats the liquidity of .999 bullion. There's no refinery cost in buying/selling .999 silver. The work is already done! And a trusted brand - a national mint or major refinery like Engelhard - can even add premium over melt. Same is true with 90%. The price you pay should be related to why you're buying. It takes a LOT of War Nickels or Kennedy half dollars to retire.  Here's my example, a few years ago I bought a small hoard of Mexico 1 peso "silver coins" for my personal collection. https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces3550.htmlThe coins - minted from 1957 to 1967 - are .100 fine and some collectors debate whether we should even call them silver at all. Anyway, I kept all the BU examples for my date set and tried to sell the rest for bullion. That was about 75 pieces. No luck! Took it to a trusted dealer and he just pushed the bag across the counter. Wouldn't even look at them. And I knew they guy from previous sales! No market, he said, refiners won't take them and they're only desired by collectors in high grade. And that's generaly true. These coins go dark fast. No lustre, no eye appeal because the silver content is so low. You see the same thing in War Nickels. Eventually I sold them to a collector on Numista for $1 each (aound melt). A few weeks later that collector wrote to me, said he kept all the ones he wanted, now he wanted to know what to do with the rest?! (Why ask me? You bought them!) I suggested he list them on Numista for trade. Not sure whether he did. Moral of the story: collect what you like, but if you're looking for profit stick with .999 or 90%! PS: I like all silver but know I'm not getting rich on most of it...!
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Valued Member
Canada
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War Nickels are ugly. Not the pride of ownership you can have in shiny silver. 40% halves take a lot of space for little value. I own both because silver is silver but I would not build my whole stack out of them. That 10% silver Mexican stuff, I've gotten a few in mixed international lots of silver coins but I can see why most people don't want a ton of them in their silver stack. Lots of space for little value. You could make up grab bags and include a Mexican coin to satisfy the promise of silver in the lot. It's cheap but nice for a beginning collector to own a big coin like that.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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@JadeDragon - I don't think War Nickels are ugly at all, I think they discolor very easily (because of the relatively low silver content), but even then I like the design. I especially like the HUGE mint marks placed over the Monticello. It's very striking and the older I get the more I appeciate the design modification (to indicate their metal composition). If someone is looking for silver content, maybe avoid these coins, but as a collector of US coins, I love War Nickels! I won't get rich from owning them but I'll take War Nickels any day of the week.
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New Member
United States
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This post makes me wonder, because I just purchased 30 silver Kennedy half dollars for $106, including tax, on ebay. Is this something I need to avoid if trying to purchase silver close to melt price? I doubt I'd have trouble reselling them (except for high ebay seller fees) because they were on auction and from the look of things I won the auction by the skin of my teeth. I like the silver Franklin proofs, as well, but the markup on those and Washington silver proofs is astronomical. I don't buy specifically for just silver melt; I have quite a few PCGS and NGC graded Morgans and Silver Eagles.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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@Thomaski Pro tip #1: with few exceptions, any silver you buy around melt will always be worth around melt... The market is established and the line between supply and demand is generally steady. Pro tip #2: 90% silver is better than 40% and US is generally easier to sell than world silver... Pro tip #3: don't get sucked in by "cheap" world silver. It's cheap for a reason. I love world silver, but there's not much room for profit on the flip side. You bought a decent lot of 40% silver at a decent price (about 13% over melt). That's more than I would pay, but my goals might be different from yours! Luckily, Kennedy half dollars (40% and 90% silver) are very popular so you'll never have trouble selling them, but you won't get rich along the way. Same thing with War Nickels. They're popular, but never carry much of a premium in average circulated condition. So what are you trying to do with your silver? Collect? Stack? Get rich? Tell us your story. We're here to discuss coins, don't be shy!
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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I received a War Nickel in change back in the very early '70s when I was about ten. The history of it fascinated me, and contributed to my lifelong obsession with bits of metal with various markings on them.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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When I got back into roll hunting after after almost a 30-year break, I decided to hit the half dollars. This was around 2007. I was finding hundreds of 40% Kennedys, boxes were loaded. At $20 spot silver, my local guy was paying 75 cents each. He really didn't want them tbh. Other hunters such as a couple bank managers that I knew were also roll hunting and they were tossing the 40% and keeping 90%. I ended up finding a couple thousand over the next 7 years, and just sat on them. I tried selling rolls on Craigslist and finally moved a few at 70% of spot, not too shabby for coins found at face value. Today, I'm still slightly fond of 40% but I don't keep more than a couple rolls worth, same with War Nickels.
When I listen to LED ZEPPELIN...so do my neighbors... Roll hunting since '77 Dirt fishing since '72
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New Member
United States
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When you guys say don't buy world silver, are you referring to Silver Maple Leaf coins or Austrian Philharmonics? Or something else?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
840 Posts |
@thomaski - No, no, no - bullion coins like those are great. They hold their value very well. All the major mints have decent bullion coins with varying premiums. What I meant was: watch out for common date, average circulated, low face-value world silver coins. You'll see them on ebay etc and they often sell at or below melt because they're not very desirable. I absolutely LOVE these coins, but I'm a COLLECTOR, not a stacker. So think twice before buying things like UK 3-pence or 6-pence or even shillings, or Norway 10 ore, or Japan 100 yen etc etc. They are very common in average cirulated consition and take a while to sell.
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New Member
United States
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Thank you for clarifying that, Jeff!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: Pro tip #1: with few exceptions, any silver you buy around melt will always be worth around melt... The market is established and the line between supply and demand is generally steady. Tip #4: Silver you buy for well over melt value might not be worth over melt value in the future. An example is from 2011 when silver hit $50, many pieces that were selling at double melt when silver was $20 had virtually no premium at $50.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
840 Posts |
Quote: Tip #4: Silver you buy for well over melt value might not be worth over melt value in the future.
An example is from 2011 when silver hit $50, many pieces that were selling at double melt when silver was $20 had virtually no premium at $50. Yah, don't get caught up in the hype on the way UP or DOWN. You can lose your shirt either way...
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
735 Posts |
Not a fan of 40% or 35% for silver content purposes & Actually sold off a couple rolls of 40% Kennedy's to purchase walkers. But as a collector I have Bu examples of all the War Nickels & a couple Bu 40% Kennedy halves & a handful of Bu & proof 40% ikes.
I've been collecting for a couple years... Favorite Coin's are Standing Liberty quarters, Working on my type set | Coffee, Corvettes, Coins & the CCF what could be better?
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Valued Member
United States
417 Posts |
I dislike the idea of 40% silver coins because not many people know about them, and no one wants to have to explain it (especially in a SHTF scenario when stacking comes into play).
I'll go a step further and say I prefer coins where you don't need to check the date at all, in other words any type that doesn't span 1964. Give me some Mercurys, Walkers, Franklins, that's the good stuff.
Edited by TimNH 11/25/2022 1:39 pm
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New Member
United States
25 Posts |
I do love the Franklin silver proofs, too, Tim NH!
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