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1966 Washington Quarter Cud (Cu-25c-1966-2r)

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 Posted 11/20/2022  3:48 pm  Show Profile   Check -makecents-'s eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add -makecents- to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure. He may want the pics (since yours are always so good), just to show progression. Looks to be about a year before he starts taking new ones though.
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 Posted 11/20/2022  6:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Willburton to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice one!
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 Posted 11/21/2022  1:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Slight coin wrapper damage on the obverse side of thus coin. (But minor)
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 Posted 11/22/2022  2:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Other examples struck by this reverse die show a Retained Cud in this location. So either the Retained Cud fell away before your coin was struck, or it receded so deeply below the plane of the die face that its working face failed to contact the planchet represented by your coin.
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Thanks Mike, so those indentations on the listed coin represent a designless Retained Cud and are not PMD?
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Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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Nice one CoinHi! I know I'm late but I recently aquired one of these and it appears to have remnants of the devices still imparted on part of the Cud. I was researching it and came across this post.
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Thanks gsp193, I meant to send this one in to CudsonCoins but forgot. I would like to see your coin. As Mike Diamond pointed out in a reply to this topic, The Cud listed (CU-25c-1966-2R) shows a Retained Cud while this coin does not. Does your coin look like the listing?
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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It has remnants of O F A and wing edge I believe. You can see the die flow lines on the Cud around where the partial device remnants are IMO. (Like the flow lines are in the field.)
Here are a few pics.

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I think the plate coin three indentations are PMD. Mine may be a partial retained maybe, I am trying to learn about them. It seems it was still in the die but recessed-but a small percent of the device was imparted on one end before it broke away or receeded to far into the die. Hopefully I am understanding Mr Diamond correct.
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CoinHI, JC is taking submissions again.
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Gsp193, thanks for posting those photos, your coin looks in great condition. I think yours is a stage in between the plate coin and my coin. Yours has the extra nub on the die crack but not the upper rim progression while still showing some die design. Yes, I believe yours is showing a Retained Cud as Mike mentioned of the other examples seen.
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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Thanks CoinHi, was glad to! Where is the upper rim progression you mentioned so I will know for future reference. Thanks in advance!
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gsp193, @makecents replied to this topic thread with a side by side photo comparing the Cuds with arrows. Scroll through and check it out.
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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 Posted 01/23/2023  3:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gsp193 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks I figured it out, the top left corner.
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The Cud missing the die resistance opposite that are will leave a weaker design because of the die chip. It happens and confirms that is it a Cud when the metal is not showing on the opposite side area on the coin.
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