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Is ANA A Reputable Legit Grading Company And Request Opinion Of Grade On 1895 Indian Head Cent

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 Posted 12/10/2022  5:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
I would agree with 63RB. Perhaps even 64RB.

I have a few coins in the old small ANA holders (they are quite collectible in and of themselves and will bring premiums irrespective of the coin inside) and have found them to be accurately graded for the most part, or slightly under modern market grades.

The early ANA/ANACS small white holders were not well sealed, though, and coins inside can sometimes tone in less than desirable ways. The last series of ANACS small white holders (before the change to the modern large-size slabs) don't seem to have that issue as often.

The ANA / ANACS / NCI Photo Certificate coins are also very collectible, and they were still using the American Numismatic Association branding and logos back then as well.

In my opinion it is not a good idea for the company that literally wrote the book on modern grading standards to have a vested ownership interest in the certification and grading process, and that is probably at least one reason why the ANA now only has an advertising relationship/agreement with NGC.
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 Posted 12/10/2022  5:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
I also think it looks better than 63rb. Nice coin!
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 Posted 12/10/2022  6:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list
Here is information about your slab: ANACS Slab Generation 1

Produced from Feb 1989 - Jun 1990. It is ANACS' 11th Generation of certification following the 10 generations of Photo Certificates. This holder is the 1st generation slab style holder issued by the ANA prior to being purchased by Amos Publishing and being re-labeled ANACS.

The slab is uncommon and it is a keeper.


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 Posted 12/10/2022  6:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list
Coins in these slabs are generally properly graded. I wouldn't worry about it, in fact, many are conservative and may grade higher by today's standards. Let me add - toning appears stable after all these years, and coin looks as if it could grade MS-64 or higher. If offered at auction as is, it should bring a premium.
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 Posted 12/10/2022  6:42 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
That's ANACS and yes, completely legit. Beautiful coin in an old holder.
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 Posted 12/10/2022  9:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JTCC to your friends list
I agree, legitimate grader, nice coin.
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 Posted 12/10/2022  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumismaticsFTW to your friends list
No need for better pictures at all.

Those slabs are easily recognizable and they are highly sought after and bring premiums.

They are legit, respectable and known for having a conservative grade.
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 Posted 12/11/2022  06:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list
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Nice looking coin.
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 Posted 12/11/2022  07:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MisterT to your friends list
Grading will always be subjective even amongst TPG's. 63RB seems correct to me.
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 Posted 12/11/2022  10:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smat45 to your friends list
I learned something new today about slabs!
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 Posted 12/11/2022  1:27 pm  Show Profile   Check datadragon's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add datadragon to your friends list
Here is a document you may be interested in regarding the history of the ANACS slabs that was posted by Burton Strauss III (BStrauss3 in this thread) elsewhere I found interesting. https://docs.google.com/presentatio...nAA51ErVhLf8

It is a old legit slab perhaps undergraded to the standards of today in these old slabs generally sometimes if its been held by one collector since it was graded, but if its been held by numerous collectors who never cracked it out and resubmitted it its possible in that case it could be over graded. Regardless the old slabs are desired by some collectors beyond the coin itself.
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 Posted 12/11/2022  5:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumismaticsFTW to your friends list
I never responded on a grade.

I can see this in a 64 holder easily.
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 Posted 12/11/2022  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RedRaider to your friends list
Grade looks good. I have had some luck getting Indian Head cents in old ANA slabs into higher grades at PCGS. Last one went from a 62RB to a 65RB!
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 Posted 12/28/2022  10:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
Coin looks properly graded.
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 Posted 01/08/2023  11:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wideglide to your friends list
Now THAT was educational! I knew ANACS was somehow affiliated with the ANA in the past, but I didn't know the details.
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