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 Posted 11/18/2023  5:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
Yep, I guess so!

Looks like he disappeared and is now "Gone With The Wind!"

Hope I didn't offend him by pointing out the obvious. He's not the first, and won't be the last, to think that the AW designers initials on the obverse are a W mintmark!
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 Posted 11/19/2023  04:51 am  Show Profile   Check Gilly's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Gilly to your friends list

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I bought a ASE without the mint mark, which means it was minted in Philadelphia.


I went through this with you a month or so ago I think? no mint mark on an ASE does NOT mean it's Philadelphia. Generically, it just means it's bullion. Bullion ASE have been minted in West Point mostly, but secondarily San Francisco and Philadelphia. By far West Point is the most common. But other than graded with an implied mint mark, there is no way to tell. You can't buy a raw bullion ASE and know where it was minted.
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 Posted 11/19/2023  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
Huh?
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 Posted 11/19/2023  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Check Gilly's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Gilly to your friends list
Whom are you huh-ing?
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 Posted 11/19/2023  8:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
You! The OP never said anything on this thread about bullion coins!
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 Posted 11/19/2023  9:11 pm  Show Profile   Check Gilly's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Gilly to your friends list
Right, the OP didn't. I am quoting "Errers an Varieties" mentioning the ASE be bought without a mint mark, which means it's bullion, but does not mean it's Philadelphia like many US circulating coins.
I am not replying to the OP.
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 Posted 11/19/2023  9:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
Thank you Gilly. I'll remember that.
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 Posted 11/19/2023  10:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spark65 to your friends list
Sorry for keeping you guys in suspense and no you don't scare me The weekend keeps me busy.

So thanks for the info and yes it does have the S mark on the obverse but the bigger question now is why?

Better yet why do I have what appears to be a W mark on the front?
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 Posted 11/19/2023  10:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HondoB to your friends list
As Dearborn said,

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The 'S' mint mark will be on the reverse and the Designers Initials are on the obverse (AW) but it looks like a W and a glance.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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 Posted 11/20/2023  08:47 am  Show Profile   Check Gilly's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Gilly to your friends list

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yes it does have the S mark on the obverse


No the mint mark is on the reverse. The obverse is the front, the reverse is the reverse.
The mint mark on ASEs has always been on the reverse side.

The obverse was slightly redesigned in 2021. It is supposed to be a closer representation to the original Weinman design.
The original Walking Liberty design didn't have this prominent AW initials, but the mint saw fit to add them and confused the whole hobby, it seems, given that the West Point mint makes the bulk of ASEs. But no, the mint mark again is always always on the reverse of an ASE.

There are several resources out there to get more background on the 2021 redesign. If you are intent on collecting them, I'd study up.
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 Posted 11/20/2023  09:00 am  Show Profile   Check Gilly's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Gilly to your friends list

Weinman designed both sides of the Walking Liberty half dollar. On the original coin, his initials were found on the reverse side as shown. That's how he did his initials for his designs.

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 Posted 11/20/2023  09:04 am  Show Profile   Check Gilly's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Gilly to your friends list
Here's a copy and paste of some further info. You might say "it's a lot to take in". Many people have been confused over these initials.

"For the obverse introduced with the Reverse of 2021 production, Mint medallic artists used original plaster models and tooling assets from the 1916 half dollar to refresh the design.

The 2021 silver coin returns some of the elements to their original positions, such as the folds of the flag and the sun's rays.

The font for the inscription matches that used on the 1916 coin. Weinman's artist initials are placed on the 2021 to the field below IN GOD WE TRUST. On the Walking Liberty half dollar series, Weinman's initials appear on the reverse in the field below the eagle's left wing."
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 Posted 11/20/2023  8:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spark65 to your friends list
Thanks Gilly still don't understand the reason for the mint mark on the reverse and the designer initials on the Obverse. See I learned something
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 Posted 11/21/2023  1:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list
Trying to make the coin - at least the obverse - look as close to the original as possible.
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