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How "Unsearched Rolls" Are Made.

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 Posted 03/31/2024  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HondoB to your friends list

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They were 95% unsearched.

Correct, oriole. 95% of each coin was unsearched - only the 5% around the date was searched.
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 Posted 04/02/2024  7:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tyr4nt to your friends list

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That reminds me of the auctions of "unsearched Wheat penny rolls" with something else on each end.


Hondo Boguss I saw some of those on Etsy this week. "Unsearched" Wheat penny rolls with a Mercury dime on the end from an "estate sale"...

I mean, I guess there's a sucker born every day but jeez, I'd feel bad ripping people off.
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 Posted 04/02/2024  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
You might feel bad, but not the thousands of scammers who use ebay everyday to rip people off. The platform is an open invitation to cheat and steal.
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 Posted 04/02/2024  7:43 pm  Show Profile   Check Brandmeister's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Brandmeister to your friends list
I always find myself wondering about the buyer side of the equation. It seems like a sucker would be converted into a cynic yhe first time they get burned. Where does this limitless supply of suckers come from?
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 Posted 04/06/2024  5:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpsned to your friends list
Sounds like "unsearched" really means "they were searched a few years ago but not recently."
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 Posted 04/06/2024  5:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list
There was one seller on ebay years ago who deliberately/openly created Wheat cent rolls by hand--cent by cent. The difference here is that the seller was very up front with the method used to fill the rolls. The description was straight forward--wheat cent rolls filled from the sellers hoard. I recall that the rolls were offered at auction, with a starting price of $0.01. I picked up a roll--paid something like $8.25 for it--just for fun. Coins were mostly common wheats--nothing above VF, but there was a '21 S and a '23 S --both problem free-- that served as decent hole fillers at the time. And a strong, problem free VF '43 D with a rather nice die crack.

I suspect most roll sellers are somewhat dubious, but perhaps not all.
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 Posted 04/08/2024  4:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list
There are quite a few folks in my local coin club that really go for the unsearched Cent rolls. One of them commented that they sell for prices all over the map, but the coins always seem to correlate in quality with the selling price. She got one roll for the "low price" of $25, and it only had random dated, well-circulated coins. Another one went for $125 (she considered it a normal price) and it had a cull silver dime and some Indian cents. Yet another went for much more (she would not disclose the price) and it had a cull Au Dollar in it. In the end she was happy with all of them, and continues to buy them to this day. My theory is that the seller makes up the roll according to the selling price, to make sure the buyer ends up happy, and to ensure he does not "waste" the better cull coins on the low-price rolls.
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$125 for a roll with a cull silver dime and some Indian cents, and she considers this a "normal" price and keeps on buying?
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 Posted 04/08/2024  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list
I'm wondering... Might be interesting to conduct a 'test' of single rolls of wheat cents acquired via ebay. Perhaps identify several established sellers with 99.9% or better feedback. Purchase a single roll from each seller, then inventory and evaluate--in detail--what is found in each roll. Rolls would be mixed content, not offered as straight-date bank wrapped rolls. Record and share the results. Would be fun to learn if every roll is less-than-desirable jetsam put together by a greasy fast-buck scammer, or if there's some range/variability in quality/value. Maybe something in between, on average.

I might give this a try later this spring or early summer. Stay tuned...
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 Posted 04/08/2024  7:46 pm  Show Profile   Check Brandmeister's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Brandmeister to your friends list

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Yet another went for much more (she would not disclose the price) and it had a cull Au Dollar in it.

When my sister's kids were little, we would take them to the local rock and mineral show. There was a guy with a trailer that held a "mining" sluice with running water. For varying amounts of money, you could buy a bag of sand and treasure stones. The kids would get a colander and whoosh it around in the water trough until they found the treasures. For the $20 high-end bag, you were guaranteed at least one "gemstone"—something like an amethyst, cloudy emerald, or whatever.

Rigging Wheat cent rolls at various price levels reminds me of that.
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 Posted 04/09/2024  2:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SaturnD51 to your friends list
We should buy several rolls of unsearched cents. Then a week later send them all back to the seller and say we have found their fongerprints on all the coins.Ha
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 Posted 04/09/2024  9:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
A cull AU dollar in a Wheat cent roll? Must be unsearched for sure.
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 Posted 04/09/2024  10:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add n9jig to your friends list

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A cull AU dollar in a Wheat cent roll? Must be unsearched for sure


And an obviously misshapened roll for sure. How does one jam a dollar coin, even the smaller dollars in a penny roll? I doubt they would have put a gold one in there...
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 Posted 04/09/2024  11:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list
It was indeed a gold one, not sure which version, but all of them are smaller than Cents so can fit within the roll.
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