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Starting A Peace Dollar Collection - Looking For Wisdom

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 Posted 04/11/2024  7:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list
I have not decided to collect these particular dollars (yet), bit I did start one for Morgan dollars and my first purchase was the Dansco Albums and sleeves to go with them so I can fill it as I go - an easier way the mark my progress.
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 Posted 04/11/2024  7:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list
First find out the most expensive coin in the series and decide how much you can afford to pay for one.Let's say you can afford one in xf,so all the rest should be in that condition so the compleat set will look right
Here are a couple links for you to bookmark and study:https://www.pcgs.com/photograde/
http://www.vamworld.com/wiki/Home
http://m.numismedia.com/rarecoinprices.htm
Good luck with your endeavor.
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 Posted 04/11/2024  8:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MisterT to your friends list
Its a short series so easily accomplished. I did a XF-AU set last year for about $1600. I would start with the key dates (1921, 1928, and 1934) in the highest grade you can afford. Then try to match the rest of the collection to those grades. The 1928 is going to be the most expensive but it will give you incentive to complete the rest. Keep in mind that there is a 1934 D (D.D.O.) and on the 1935 S there are two varieties, one with 3 rays and the other with 4 rays on the reverse just in case you wanted to include varieties. Happy hunting!
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 Posted 04/11/2024  8:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AES to your friends list
The Peace dollar series is great for compiling a complete date/mint set as it has only 24 total coins. I've built a lot of different sets of Peace dollars over the years. The Everyman AU set was the most enjoyable and fun for the money. They're all in decent condition and the cost can be reduced by going with lower AU keys. And you can move them through an auction house when you're ready to part with them.

https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/alltimeset/215636

But it's a rabbit hole if you're bitten by the VAM bug.
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 Posted 04/11/2024  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pmint1 to your friends list
I completed a mostly BU set (34-s is AU) by finding a couple of coin dealers who allow layaway. This allowed my to buy coins that I couldn't pay for all at once to pay over a two or three month period. Admittedly I completed mine 5 years ago and the asking price has soared since then. I am doing the same with Morgan's and I just recently put a 93-s on layaway which is the last hole to fill for my set. The Morgan's are mostly ms but I have a few VG's in there as well. In my 10 years of collecting I've been able to almost complete both sets thanks to layaway.
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 Posted 04/12/2024  08:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joewobblie to your friends list
I would start with the common ones to get a feel for grading. The difference between a weak strike and wear was hard for me to see at first. I found my early purchases were off - I paid too much for over-graded pieces. After a while when you are more comfortable with grading then spend the money for the keys.
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 Posted 04/12/2024  08:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moniker to your friends list

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I would start with the common ones to get a feel for grading. The difference between a weak strike and wear was hard for me to see at first. I found my early purchases were off - I paid too much for over-graded pieces. After a while when you are more comfortable with grading then spend the money for the keys.


Being a new collector I can only confirm this. Its easy to get burned, and a lot of sellers ready to fool you if you don't look out.
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 Posted 04/12/2024  5:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MisterT to your friends list
Please be aware that the 1921 high relief coin is often found without fully struck hair details that can be mistaken for wear when it is actually strike weakness. A different criteria is used to grade the 1921 than that of the rest of the series. For a novice I would recommend purchasing the three key dates (1921, 1928, 1934) certified by a TPG.
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 Posted 04/12/2024  8:18 pm  Show Profile   Check Brandmeister's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Brandmeister to your friends list
I am not a silver dollar collector, but the advice about buying the three most expensive coins first made the hairs on my neck stand up. Mister T's proposal to buy those slabbed seems less risky, but honestly, there is so much variation in slabbed coins (and slop by TPGs) that it seems better to start with a few common dates first. Show them to folks here, discuss thoroughly, and learn the lessons—partly by being burned—before moving up to the big leagues.

Start the blackjack game at the $5 table. That's my Two Cents, fwiw. There is no pressure to bet big on your own skill right from the start.
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 Posted 04/12/2024  8:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list
Put together a budget for grade and how much you want to spend for each coin. I would not recommend doing the key dates first as you are going to make buying mistakes on your first set. You are better off making the mistakes on common dates. Your buying ability and Peace dollar knowledge will improve as you progress through the set. Make a criteria of what you want each coin to look like, for example: problem free, original skin with eye appeal.
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 Posted 04/13/2024  06:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list
All good advice. Keep us posted on your progress.
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 Posted 04/13/2024  10:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tyr4nt to your friends list
First off - thanks for all the advice, I value it all.

- I will bookmark the links John1, Thanks!
- Collecting varieties sounds like part of the fun, so I appreciate that advice.
- I never considered Layway would be an option, but that seems like a really good way for a guy to get certain coins on a budget. I will ask about those when I'm visiting Local Coin Shops.
- It seems pragmatic advice that I don't start with keys at first since my skill level is quite low. There is a boon to my locality, Stack's and Bowers has a showroom 5.5 miles from my front door. I want to assume I can trust them for keys if I start struggling. :)
- Formalizing a list of aesthetic criteria seems quite smart. The me of now can keep the me in the buying moment in check.

The Red Book for Peace dollars arrived yesterday. I've got a 10x Belomo triplet on order as well.
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 Posted 04/14/2024  11:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Winesteven to your friends list
I'll share my thoughts, which differ from many of those above. One of the many things about our wonderful hobby is often there's no right or wrong. YOU collect how YOU choose to collect, and that's ok.

1. Instead of a complete 24 coin date and mint set, many collectors choose to collect Peace dollars as a DATE Set, which then is a 10 coin set. This way YOU choose which Mint to get for each year. You can choose a tougher Mint, or if you choose a more common Mint, you can then afford a higher grade, not only because it's a more common mint, but you only have to budget for ten coins instead of 24. These higher grade coins, perhaps MS63 or 64, should then have less wear AND nicer eye appeal.
2. While there's merit to @John1's point about having a "matched" set, and many collectors agree, many collectors, including myself, disagree. It's a personal preference. While the expensive Key dates should only be bought in the grades you can afford, my preference is to not limit yourself to low grades for the common coins, which can easily be bought in MS63 and 64 at relatively low prices. Coins in those grades will have fewer marks if you're patient, and bright cartwheel or lovely satin luster. Those relatively inexpensive coins will have much nicer eye appeal for just a few dollars more than the same date in XF. Having coins with nicer eye appeal in your opinion may give you more pleasure from your set.
3. The final area I disagree with is you taking the time to become an expert in identifying the authenticity of each of the key dates. Instead, I suggest only buying coins already graded by NGC or PCGS. Not only will they guarantee the authenticity, but when the time comes to sell, you won't have a dealer saying your key date XF 45 is really a VF 35. Additionally, the holder provides some environmental protection, as well as physical protection against dropping and/or sloppy handling. Sometimes I have the dropsies, so I'm glad the coin is in that hard holder! A final advantage is many of the coins graded by those firms will have a professional "True View" photo of the obverse and reverse taken while they had the coin raw.
4. I suggest buying these coins from GC (Great Collections). As a generalization the high bid is usually fair, and you'll also get two professional slab shots of each coin (one obverse, the other reverse).

VERY RECENT sales of the common dates graded MS64 and MS64+ have ranged from $50 - $95, INCLUDING the Buyers Premium. Coins totaling less than $500 in a single auction are shipped for only $5 plus 50 cents per coin.

How can you not buy these lovely, highly lustrous coins, professionally graded and authenticated, with professional photos, at these prices, for $50 - $95, graded MS64 or 64+?

Happy Hunting! Have FUN!

Not that it matters, but for ME, I decided my Peace dollar collection would be a 10 Coin DATE Set, as that allowed me to buy coins in higher grades than I would have been able to buy had I needed to budget for a 24 coin set.

Steve
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My collecting "Pride & Joy" is my PCGS Registry Dansco 7070 Set:
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 Posted 04/15/2024  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add One50 to your friends list
I started collecting Peace dollars seriously about a year ago. I purchased the Red Book, which is very very informative. I read it over and over many times. When I go to coin shops and shows I look at every Peace dollar I'm allowed to look at in every grade possible. There is no better education than handling a coin in person, over and over again. I purchase the ones that appeal to me. I'm a huge fan of die cracks personally. While I would like to get a complete set some day, I could see myself sticking with a couple common dates and getting a ton of varieties just from the common dates. It's not a race for me, it's a adventure. That's how I approach Peace dollars.

Dan
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