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Quote:Your best bet would be to check ebay sold values for similar coins. I'd suggest using Great Collections as they tend to sell a lot of slabbed "cleaned" coins in addition to straight-grades. Their auction history is enormous. Same source can easily provide an average delta between the two. From images of the cleaned specimen you could assign a numeric grade for degree of cleaning to further isolate price deltas. I swing a metal detector and have a knack for finding dirty old coins. Dirt coin restoration projects - https://www.prodetecting.com/restorationsDirt coin restoration blog - https://www.prodetecting.com/blog/ccawDirt coin dig videos - https://www.youtube.com/@prodetecting |
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 an inclusive list for slabbed cleaned (details) coins - No. But as stated above, it is what ever the buyer is willing to pay to have such a coin in their collection. I have bought a few (very few) slabbed/cleaned coins at greatly reduced price, then cracked them out for a Dansco album. |
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Pics are a good place to start. to the CCF! |
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Thanks for all the welcomes and answers. I'm efforting a clean (pun intended) photo of both coins and will post when and if I accomplish that.
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Not the best photo, but this will give you an idea. I had to crop them big time since I'm limited to 300Kb per photo. They don't look cleaned to me, but then again... I'm just a poor shnook who doesn't work for a TPG. And, my mistake, it's UNC Cleaned, not 60.   |
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You know, I have a few unslabbed type coins in AU/BU condition that I really enjoy looking at. It is possible that they may been subtly cleaned, but guess what? I don't wanna know. They look nice to me, and that's all I care about.
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Must admit they doon't look cleaned to me in these NGC images.
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Must admit they doon't look cleaned to me in these NGC images. I agree. Pricing on details graded coins is going to be difficult to pin down. You really do not know until you go offer it for sale. For what it is worth, if I still needed them and were buying those to put in my Dansco, I would not expect a steep discount for the details grade. I do not see why you would have to take that much of a hit. |
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In my humble opinion The values of all "Details" coins are based on eye appeal and "how scarce is the coin". That Trade dollar is really nice for a "details" graded coin. I would think you could get close to full value on it. |
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That is a tough grade on the 1876 Trade dollar compared to some of the garbage that I have seen NGC straight grade. My guess your coin value is $700 to $800. The 1876 Trade dollar below sold in Jan 2024 at Great Collections for $815 with buyer's fee.  |
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There is a "logical" way to value a details-graded coin. However, coin collectors aren't logical, so it's not really of much practical benefit...
The logical way would be this.
Ask yourself the hypothetical question: If I were to take this coin, and use it as a pocket piece and wear it down until all trace of the cleaning disappears, how badly worn would that coin have to become?
Then work out an approximate grade for a hypothetical coin with that amount of wear, and finally look up the market value for a coin in that grade. That would be your ball-park figure for a value.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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The slab certifies that they are genuine. Now that you know that, crack them out and enjoy them as coins again. I've started leaving scarce date cleaned coins in their slabs. When I bought them they were priced close to bullion, but not anymore. For scarce dates having the certification is important. Case in point right now on ebay. A scarce 1876 gold dollar MS-64+ with CAC is $4295, a slabbed AU cleaned is $660. Same rarity but is the extra $3600 worth it to have a tiny trophy coin? As a coin collector filling holes in a book, no. As an investor maybe, but this investor prefers CDs and munis. For me coins are a pastime not a get-rich scheme. "Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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However, coin collectors aren't logical Quoted for truth.  Quote:
The slab certifies that they are genuine. Now that you know that, crack them out and enjoy them as coins again. Indeed. Reference my earlier hypothetical about putting them in my Dansco.  Quote:
I've started leaving scarce date cleaned coins in their slabs. When I bought them they were priced close to bullion, but not anymore. For scarce dates having the certification is important. Good point.  Quote:
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