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2006 Lincoln Memorial Penny FS-102.

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 Posted 11/28/2024  7:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dykil93 to your friends list
Here are some more pics I have on my phone. I would have to look when I get home. I was hoping I found something and was able to properly distinguish what error, but I guess I if I did choose incorrectlyat least I was able to spot an error. Let me know if these help. I can't seem to get down the angle for light and I would expect it might slightly change depending on the strike, so if it does have a FS-101 and FS-103 it could mean it's hard to get an image perhaps.. still learning on the image taking process. What MS would you give it?

Thank you for the reply, -makecents- , Dearborn , Jim0815 , Errers and Varietys

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 Posted 11/28/2024  8:00 pm  Show Profile   Check -makecents-'s eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add -makecents- to your friends list
Thank you for the new pics! It's MD, not a doubled die, sorry.
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 Posted 11/28/2024  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dykil93 to your friends list

I don't think it's Machine Doubling. It's to squared like a step and not angled like a mountain. These pictures show the same striking as the Y on the better T. I think it was struck multiple times. Look at the leg of the R as well. -makecents-

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 Posted 11/28/2024  9:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
I'm sorry, but it looks like Machine Doubling. It's not a DDO.
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 Posted 11/28/2024  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dykil93 to your friends list
Also look at this -makecents-
What causes these lines to happen if it isn't multi struck? Weakness in the metal?

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 Posted 11/28/2024  10:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dykil93 to your friends list
Ok, I'll have to do more research About Machine Doubling I guess. Didn't realize it could be on such a sharp and new looking Coin. I thought it could only be produced by an old die. Thank you.
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 Posted 11/28/2024  10:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dykil93 to your friends list
What is causing the raised lines under the liberty in the last picture? Was it the result of a weak metal comp? Errers and Varietys
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 Posted 11/29/2024  08:29 am  Show Profile   Check -makecents-'s eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add -makecents- to your friends list
Those are trail dies. I thought I could see them in your early pics but was not sure. Here is a link to see if you can find one to match yours. I'll look as well and see what you've come up with this evening. Looks like there are three pages of 2006 P obverse trails.

LINK https://www.traildies.com/2006p-1deo_001-010/
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 Posted 11/29/2024  5:20 pm  Show Profile   Check -makecents-'s eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add -makecents- to your friends list
Alright, I went through the trail die listings and came up with some for you to check for markers, with the existing pics I cannot find any. You have the coin in hand, so see if you can match it up. 9T, 12T, 14T, 21T and 26T. All of these are similar in location and degree of angle. Here is also a pic of yours that I put in correct orientation.

LINK https://www.traildies.com/2006p-1deo_001-010/




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 Posted 11/30/2024  01:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dykil93 to your friends list
-makecents- Ahh very cool website! Thank you.
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 Posted 11/30/2024  01:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dykil93 to your friends list
I am assuming Traildies do not have an extra value, but I don't see the trails my coin has on any of the pictures provided on the website. Maybe I should submit my pictures to them for educational purposes?
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 Posted 11/30/2024  10:14 am  Show Profile   Check -makecents-'s eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add -makecents- to your friends list

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I am assuming Traildies do not have an extra value, but I don't see the trails my coin has on any of the pictures provided on the website. Maybe I should submit my pictures to them for educational purposes?
They may sell for two or three bucks, maybe more for some of the stronger ones. These were originally thought to be doubled dies, there were many of them listed for years on the various sites, most notably the "wavy steps", until a study was done in 2017 by a friend of mine and proved what other thought, that they were not doubled dies at all. Trails are cause by a circular polishing tool used on working dies, working hubs and even master dies. Some still consider them varieties, some errors and some do not think they are either. Below is a link to contact them at traildies.com but I'm not sure if they are accepting new coins right now but you can try. Also, below are some of my better finds.

LINK https://www.traildies.com/contact/

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 Posted 11/30/2024  10:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dykil93 to your friends list
Sorry -makecents- , I didn't realize you had to click page two of the replies on the IPhone to see more comments. Let me take a look at 9T, 12T, 14T, 21T and 26T like you said. I will let you know, also thanks for sending the link about how I could contact them if I choose to do so. Very informative and helpful!
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 Posted 11/30/2024  12:13 pm  Show Profile   Check Brandmeister's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Brandmeister to your friends list
Worn dies cause Die Deterioration Doubling.

Push Machine Doubling happens due to vibration in the strike. The coin and die have a second interaction where the die cavity comes down again, shears metal from freshly struck device, and crushes it flat adjacent to the device. The appearance is flat and shelf-like, and can be quite crisp.

Aside from the crispness, one way to differentiate DDD vs. MD is that DDD actually widens the device because the die cavity is widening as it wears. MD reduces the main device, because the crushed metal must come from the device itself.
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