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Thank you, LuvmyCAM, it is a rare bird to have let alone an MS Red.
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Congrats on successfully grading a rare variety caught in the wild! =) 1988 FS-901 is the 1989 RDV-006 reverse with flared G in FG. I just asked about that the other day, for the very reason that PCGS confusingly calls it a Wide AM, even though the variety is on the designer initials.
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Quote:I think it might be the RDV 006 Flared G Wide AM variety on VV (Die 1, 2, or 3) maybe? http://www.varietyvista.com/01b%20L...DRDV0061.htmPlease let me know if I am incorrect. igwt79, VV only has three die pairs for this variety but Wexler has thirteen. Jim's does not match any of the three for VV, as the mm location is wrong but there are markers on Wexler's die pair #4 that match. Jim's pics are on the right with red circles around the matching markers. Here is a link to Wexler's listings for this variety. LINK https://doubleddie.com/278743.html 
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-makecents-, Excellent information! Thank you!!! This type of response is very helpful and much appreciated.
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Very nice find Jim0815! Congrats on that grade 
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Quote: I just asked about that the other day, for the very reason that PCGS confusingly calls it a Wide AM, even though the variety is on the designer initials. Brand, just to be clear, because this comes up often, the PCGS " Wide AM designation" has nothing to do with the more well known WAM reference for the 1998, 1999 and 2000 cents. It refers to the thickness of the font between RDV-005 and RDV-006, where the A and M are slightly thicker on the RDV-006, as I have pointed out in the VV pic below. It is very confusing that they use this reference that is already being used for the obvious varieties though and should have been thought through a little better. The time sequence of the discovery of each variety may have had something to do with this too though.  ADDED: Larger pic of the difference. 
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Edited by -makecents- 01/07/2025 11:05 am
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Quote: -makecents-, Excellent information! Thank you!!! This type of response is very helpful and much appreciated. You are very welcome. Many folks do not even realize or maybe care, that there are different die pairs when it comes to these varieties, as there are several for the Philly variety too.
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Very nice Jim! 
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-makecents-, the only visibly different termination there is the upper right M corner. I just recently looked at over 250 1988 cents, keeping a few 1989 on hand for reference. Because someone (possibly you) mentioned the A in America tips on a different thread, I had been looking at those. The variations due to Die Deterioration make them all nearly indistinguishable. i.e. the EDS 1989 in many cases seemed thinner than the LDS 1988.
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Quote: I found this 1988 D LMC FS-901 about five or six years ago and finally sent it off to be graded. I'm quite happy with the result. It was my first big find in the wild. Fantastic! 
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Quote:-makecents-, the only visibly different termination there is the upper right M corner. I just recently looked at over 250 1988 cents, keeping a few 1989 on hand for reference. Because someone (possibly you) mentioned the A in America tips on a different thread, I had been looking at those. The variations due to Die Deterioration make them all nearly indistinguishable. i.e. the EDS 1989 in many cases seemed thinner than the LDS 1988. Just passing along information I have been taught, I think by Coop. I can easily see the difference between the two fonts but understand if you do not.
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Brand, here is Coop's pic. 
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Edited by -makecents- 01/07/2025 12:15 pm
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