1958-P 1c DDO BN. New Variety. Zoom In! Detailed Red Arrows!

Maybe we have some definitional differences?

Your original coin is a 1958 P and you've posted a link to a business strike 1958 D. Further, the coin linked to isn't a DDO, regardless of the mint difference, so I'm not sure what it's supposed to be proof of.

You described your coin as showing "Beneath the letters slightly above the remnants of the previous strike are abundantly clear" and this makes me wonder if the difference between a doubled die and a double strike are clearly understood?

In any event, I'm in agreement with both of the consensus opinions, namely the photos are too small (zooming is not a function of the photo hosting on this forum) and what can been seen on the photos provided looks like doubling due to a deteriorating die more than anything else.

Then I need your help HGK3. I didn't know you couldn't zoom. It's really this simple and then further blows my mind good sir. My coin is dark, but the Doubling you see on the 1958-D 1C that you corrected me on. I'm glad you caught that. Because I scrutinized the doubling on my P mint coin. Digital microscope, those are fantastic HD massive pixel photo's. How can I get it in better size? Zoom in and screenshot and try that? Anyway, my Doubling is an identical mirror image of the 1958-D DDO which is crazy. The "U" in the Denver mint coin zoom in on it. You can see the legs of the U sticking through the top. And all the tops are doubled. Well my coin is like a duplicate of that exact Doubling. Just a tiny bit down and to the right. My "U" shows twice if not thrice the definition. I'll try an upload.

How can the letter retain its exact specifications in height and width if there is DDD? It would need in a sense more material to obtain that look. You cannot a near perfect letter and that much extended material out of the U branches. Where did the copper come from to maintain the flat surface in correct thickness, the U on top in correct height and width...You would have to add copper to get that much extra bulge off the U legs. The letter height and width gives you a volume of material. You cannot have a correct shape/volume letter and then those legs...there would not material to fill without it coming from the letter or the thickness of the coin in that tiny spot. Please take no offense and continue to educate me. Nothing in the DDD link looked anything like this. There are some on Google like mine listed as DDD. But again if material wears off the die. It means the metal must sacrifice material from somewhere to creat that appearance. My letters are solid....the coin is correct thickness...

I'm so glad you brought those photo's. Do you see where it says field merges with devices? The material flows on a slope meeting the highest surface of the letter. Now look at my coin. There is absolutely no slope whatsoever, no merging. Each letter retained it's height perfectly, look how dark it gets around the complete border of every single letter. There is no merging whatsoever. Especially the "U" where it would be most noticeable.

So, in a true DDO (or DDR) where is the so-called metal coming from to form the doubled letters?

From the same place - the copper will flow into the voids quite easily under the pressures used to strike coins. take a look at die chips for a moment, when a piece of the die beaks away and falls out, this on a hole or 'dent' in the die - does the metal not flow into it because there is not 'enough' metal to go around? NO, it does not, it also flows into the chipped area, creating a raised spot on a coin. (think of the so called BIE Errors here)

when a die wears out it starts at the field of a device, which is Incuse on the die. The letters are formed quite normally at first, until the die has worn enough to reach down into the recessed areas of the design element and at that point will merge with the top of the letters and start to reduce the letters themselves (like that B&W image that HGk3 posted just above.

Your coin is showing early stage DDD.

Now, with all that being said, if you are so adamant about your coin being a DDO, then please send it to a grading company to see if they will attribute it as such. I would suggest ANACS for this - they are the cheapest and will attribute just about anything.

The only thing I ask is that you come back to report the final findings with either a yes or no.

I've lost the motivation. I left the penny heads up on the handle of the gas pump. Good Day. (Retiring)

I appreciate everyone's time and opinions. I was frustrated and truly hoping it was something new and special. I never did out the coin on a gas pump but I sure though about it good and hard after finding out it's a only DDD.Now we can't even find said coin. How wonderful.