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Wagon Wheel Morgans

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 Posted 02/13/2010  5:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Halfwitty to your friends list
As Superdave said.I'm sure he's refering to a cartwheel dollar. I have seen those mentioned in the Photograde but not sure how to discribe them.
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 Posted 02/13/2010  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
"Cartwheel" is just an adjective used to describe how the luster plays on an Uncirculated Morgan. As one moves the coin under a light, the highlighting rotates much like the spines found on the wooden wheel of a cart. Although the size and relatively-large fields of a Morgan make this more common, a similar effect can be seen on any nicely-lustrous coin with open fields.

I would expect to see this look on any nice Uncirculated, untoned Morgan, although it fades with die wear.
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 Posted 02/13/2010  5:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Halfwitty to your friends list
Well said.
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 Posted 02/13/2010  5:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list
Yeah, well said. An adjective (or maybe even an action verb). heh heh.
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 Posted 02/13/2010  5:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twohawks to your friends list
I was referring to page 133 and 134 Partial collar strikes. It states in the last sentence on 133 that they are rare and bring a sizable premium. I found (2) 1884 O's and a 1885 O all are type 2

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 Posted 02/13/2010  6:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twohawks to your friends list
Sorry for the delay my son had a basket ball game
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 Posted 02/13/2010  6:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Ah. These are referred to in the hobby as "railroad rims." Quite in demand, from those who like to collect errors.
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 Posted 02/13/2010  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Halfwitty to your friends list
I want your camera twohawks.
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 Posted 02/13/2010  7:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
after this topic I drug out the VAM book and did a quick look through looking for the word "Wagon Wheel" and didn't find it, I guess because even in the sentence mentioned above on the page listed above in my book it states "These partial collars are also known as "railroad rims" brcause of their resemblance to a flanged railroad car wheel
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LOL I like my camera also, it's a Canon ESO Xti 3/d they have come way down in price. What type of prem. on this type I was going to sell one of the 1884's as I do not need 2 of them? I am keeping the nicest one
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 Posted 02/13/2010  8:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twohawks to your friends list
Here are the full frames of one of them

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 Posted 02/13/2010  10:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
You found THREE partial collar Morgans?

I originally thought you might be referring to a die crack connecting all of the peripheral devices but a railroad rim is much cooler
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I hate to see you straining so much....so send me half of those bags o silver you have..I'll carry it for you!
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 Posted 03/17/2010  09:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add remmy1100 to your friends list
So whats the premium over Grey sheet?
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 Posted 03/21/2010  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twohawks to your friends list
I have know idea. I listed one of the doubles with a buy it now or best offer and did not even get an offer so they will just sit in one of my box's. The coins do not fit in a standard hard case as the rim is pushed out a little.
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