Whitman & Dansco ?

To me this is a crazy argument. I feel compelled to reply once more.

First issue - P and D coins / satin vs business strike

- Are they a different coin? I would say no
- Do TPG give them a different designation? Yes
They are the same blank and made the same way, the only difference is in the die preparation.
This is just like pre 1970 proof coins, when the die were first prepared, some of those proof coins would have a deep cameo finish. These are the same blanks made with the same process, but here too TPG's give them a different grade/designation, but everyone still classes them all proofs.

Second point -
What should Dansco do?
In my opinion, there is no way to make a product that will make everyone happy.
I do believe they already make what you are asking for.
Let's look are albums for the new Parks quarters.
- If they made one that includes every coin, satin and business strike P/D's
clad and silver proofs, it would take three albums. ( State Quarter P,D,S,S is two albums)
The logical way to do this now would be to put satins and proofs in the current P,D,S,S album and the business strikes in a P and D only album. (This too would be three albums)

I think this is the way, based on the mint sells satins and proofs to collectors, these are not for circulation. It only makes sense that these go together.

Business strike or what the mint is calling circulating quality coins fit just right in the P and D only album.

I do think the mint started making satin finish coins because so many collectors complained about the quality of the business stike coins. Mint sets were sent back quite often because of the poor quality.
Satin finish coin seem to be more of a overall higher grade/quality.

I also think that now they are calling the business strike coins (P and D) "circulating quality"
that they may not let us send them back based of the quality of the coins.

I am sure not everyone will agree with me, this is just my opinion.

Here is what I found (emphasis is mine)...

Quote:
Uncirculated coins are manufactured using the same process as circulating coins, but with quality enhancements such as slightly higher coining force, early strikes from dies, special cleaning after stamping, and special packaging. Uncirculated coins may vary to some degree because of blemishes, toning, or slight imperfections.

Many, like myself, fully believe that they are different types. Maybe not as extreme as a proof, but different none-the-less.


By the way, I forgot to say that I agree with your argument that everyone cannot be pleased and this is a good solution that even I am considering.

I have refused the satin finish on my Statehood Quarters (all came from circulation) mostly because the change to satin finish happened midway through the series. But like the Presidential dollars, the ATB program has satin finish from the beginning.

That is a good way to look at it. If all of the album coins came from mint sets, then the minting process should not matter.

Absolutely.

I think the "problem" brought up in this thread affects the people that want both business strikes and satin finish.

For the current commemorative series ( ATB and Presidential dollars), it is easy like you said (three albums), but there is an issue when it comes to the cent, nickel, dime, half dollar, and Statehood Quarter collectors; because this means tweaking the last pages of existing albums.

Thank You Jbuck it is what I thought I will be ordering one from wizard. FatBoy

Thanks j buck
Moe145 I'm glad someone got a kick out of that

Satin finish coins arnt circulating coins they are a different type of coin type set:
a collection of coins based on denomination. For example, a nickel type set would contain one of each of the four types of nickels that the United States Mint has produced.
uncirculated:
The term "uncirculated" may have three different meanings when applied to a coin.
•First, it can refer to the particular manufacturing process by which a coin is made.
•Second, it can be used as a grade when referring to a coin's degree of preservation and quality of the strike.
•Or third, "uncirculated" can point to the fact that a coin has not been used in everyday commerce.
At the United States Mint, we use the term uncirculated when referring to the special coining process used to make the coin, which gives it a satin finish. Uncirculated coins are manufactured using the same process as circulating coins, but with quality enhancements such as slightly higher coining force, early strikes from dies, special cleaning after stamping, and special packaging. Uncirculated coins may vary to some degree because of blemishes, toning, or slight imperfections.

type set:
a collection of coins based on denomination. For example, a nickel type set would contain one of each of the four types of nickels that the United States Mint has produced.
uncirculated:
The term "uncirculated" may have three different meanings when applied to a coin.
•First, it can refer to the particular manufacturing process by which a coin is made.
•Second, it can be used as a grade when referring to a coin's degree of preservation and quality of the strike.
•Or third, "uncirculated" can point to the fact that a coin has not been used in everyday commerce.
At the United States Mint, we use the term uncirculated when referring to the special coining process used to make the coin, which gives it a satin finish. Uncirculated coins are manufactured using the same process as circulating coins, but with quality enhancements such as slightly higher coining force, early strikes from dies, special cleaning after stamping, and special packaging. Uncirculated coins may vary to some degree because of blemishes, toning, or slight imperfections
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