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I'm Sick Of Presidents!

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 Posted 10/08/2010  4:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
Merc dimes were a beautiful series--and they wore gracefully. The Roosevelt dime can't come close.
There are so many other possible subjects for US coins, that we don't need to continually hammer away on political subjects.
A good alternative can be seen by the artistic likenesses of wildlife on Canadian and Australian coinage.
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 Posted 10/08/2010  5:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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I'd point out that the last time I looked, the word Liberty appears on many coins in circulation.
The problem is that the a vast majority has no idea what is written on the coin, only who is on it, if they even know that.

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It is sad that (regardless of one's political outlook), the vast majority of people in this country don't know about Lady Liberty (love the Lady GaGa comment) or other principles of freedom. Too often people think along the lines of "freedom for me but not for thee."
Well said.

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But, I don't think changing our coins will make a difference in that respect.
Sadly, I feel you are right.

Changing any of these portraits is a political nightmare, especially if there is an attempt to use someone that is not a member of the political ideology the current effigy represents (for example, replacing Roosevelt with Reagan).

In reality, they cannot choose anything but Lady Liberty! Even that has its own political pitfalls. Both of the current political ideologies have statist views towards some portion of Liberty. Something that Lady Liberty would not tolerate.

Moderator note: I know this post is probably an invitation to open up the discussion. I have no problem splitting this off to General Discussion if anyone has a need to tell us how they really feel.
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 Posted 10/08/2010  10:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add drewmc1 to your friends list
I have also thought about this recently. One of the things I thought they could change is the Silver Eagle design every year or every couple years to bring back some of the old designs we all like so much.

Seated Liberty, Indian Head cent, even the Ike dollar. Just switch it up now and then with some "throwback" designs for the Silver Eagle. Just a thought.
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 Posted 10/09/2010  11:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Syaoran_2001 to your friends list
I could care less about what the symbol of Liberty represents, or what people's reasons are for wanting it back on our coinage, I just don't like the ugly Presidential profiles on coins and want to see a return to artwork on coins. It doesn't necessarily have to be an image of Liberty, it could be wildlife or other natural scenery, or perhaps some other important historical figures. Or maybe we should just have a coin that says "United States of America" on one side and the denomination and the year on the other side.

About the Silver Eagle designs, I think it's cool that they've brought back the Walking Liberty for those coins, but that doesn't count. Those aren't circulating coins, and a majority of the general public doesn't even know they exist. I didn't even know about them until a few months ago, and I'm still a bit confused about what exactly their purpose is.
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 Posted 10/09/2010  12:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Namachieli to your friends list

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and I'm still a bit confused about what exactly their purpose is


They are just NCLT (non circulating legal tender) Bullion, and in the case of the Uncirculated and proof Silver eagles, NCLT collector bullion.

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 Posted 10/09/2010  12:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Syaoran_2001 to your friends list
If it's legal tender, and it has a face value, shouldn't you be able to use the coins to pay for things, even if they aren't intended for circulation? I thought legal tender was "for all debts, public and private." Of course the amount of silver in them is worth much more the face value of the coin, but so is the amount of silver in pre-1965 quarters and dimes, and you can still use those in everyday transactions.
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 Posted 10/09/2010  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SDcoinguy to your friends list
standing libs.. IMHO.. most beautiful coin design ever
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 Posted 10/09/2010  1:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AndrewC to your friends list
Syaoran, you can use an American Silver Eagle to pay for things--it would just be foolish to do so because of the silver value.
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 Posted 10/11/2010  2:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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If it's legal tender, and it has a face value, shouldn't you be able to use the coins to pay for things, even if they aren't intended for circulation?
Yes, you can use them to buy things. Of course, as you may have implied and Andrew explicitly stated, it would be foolish to do so.

People have reported getting them in circulation.

Of course with the Robert Kahre case, the legal tender status seems to have been ignored for the benefit of the IRS.
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 Posted 10/13/2010  09:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wlwesq2010 to your friends list
There are plenty of things the US could put on its circulating coins that wouldn't involve dead presidents or other human figures. I think the Treasury is on to something with the America the Beautiful designs we're seeing on the reverse of new quarters. There are lots of uniquely American treasures that could be featured--maybe even get our buffalo back in circulation for a while!

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 Posted 10/13/2010  11:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 3stooges to your friends list
Since FDR was such a hardcore socialist and globalist, I loathe his image on the dime. Maybe the clad Roosevelts are appropriate, but his mug doesn't belong on honest money.
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 Posted 10/13/2010  12:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add andrewjconners to your friends list
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 Posted 10/13/2010  2:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Maineman750 to your friends list
The only president on a coin that I like is Lincoln, you can keep the rest other than that. I honestly don't enjoy looking at anything as much as I do the SLQ's,Walkers,Mercs and Buffaloes.
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 Posted 10/13/2010  2:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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The only president on a coin that I like is Lincoln...
And this the problem. His cent started it all!

"How is it that Lincoln is on a coin, but the Father of our Country is not?" Hello, Washington quarter!

"Washington and Lincoln would be nothing without the Declaration of Independence..." Hello, Jefferson nickel!

"The man that has led us out of the Great Depression and through a World War has departed us too soon..." Hello, Roosevelt dime!

"Another forgotten father?" Hello, Franklin half dollar!

"We have lost another great leader before his time... Sorry, Ben, but Kennedy was a President, and you were not." Hello, Kennedy half dollar!

"Roosevelt would have lost the war had it not been for another great leader..." Hello, Eisenhower dollar! I am so glad to have met you!

The push for a circulating Reagan coin has been met with a lot of controversy, as there are no remaining lesser beings (that is, "non-presidents") to displace. I like to believe that any President would (should) prefer the image of Lady Liberty as a more fitting tribute to their legacy.
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 Posted 10/17/2010  03:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sprucansailor to your friends list
Lets remember our boys and girls in Uniform! Lets take either the Nickel or dime and change them up. Maybe have a common obverse design similar to the SLQ and have a single reverse for each year.

For starters I can suggest Lake Erie, Bunker Hill, Santiago, Manila Bay, Ypres, Pearl Harbor, Battle of the Bulge, Chosin, Khe Sanh, Lebanon, Grenada, USS Cole, 9/11, Fallujah, and Mazar-i Sharif just to name a few.

This has the potential to create some beautiful designs and possibly educate people in some less known eras in U.S. history!
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