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My Frankfurt-On-The-Main 1863 Project

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Belgium
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 Posted 01/31/2014  08:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gwyde to your friends list
Luxemburg coinage has been a bit problematic through its entire history.

Prior to 1863, the (to my knowledge) last silver coin was the 72 Sols issued under emperor Franz II in 1795 (under Austrian rule, as were the Austrian Netherlands).

http://www.ngccoin.com/poplookup/wo...oinid=238234

This currency disappeared after the french revolution. After 1815, the King of the Netherlands also was reigning Luxemburg, even after Belgian independence. Dutch guilders may have been used for a while, but eventually Belgian and French francs (which were equivalent in the Latin monetary union) must have prevailed, hence the centimes coined locally. After WW-I, the Latin monetary union was broken up and all but the Swiss franc devaluated.

Luxemburg issued coins with face value above 1 LUF only since the 1920's. In 1929, silver coins of 5 and 10 LUF were issued under Grand Duchess Charlotte. (The first silver coins since 1795.)
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 Posted 03/28/2015  04:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bacchus2 to your friends list
After a long hiatus I added another thaler to my project

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Ernest Augustus
1851 1 Thaler
Ob. ERNST AUGUST KOENIG VON HANNOVER
Rev. BERGSEGEN DES HARZES above crown EIN THALER XIV EINE F. M.
Ed.TERRENT NEC ASPERA
Silver 0.9930
16.820g
mintage: 453,000
Mint: Hanover
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 Posted 03/29/2015  04:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GERMANICVS to your friends list
I don't know how I missed this vary interesting thread. I admire your dedication, Bacchus2! You haves posted some really nice coins of the rulers who attended the Fürstentag at Frankfurt in 1863.

I guess you have fully completed your project by now?

I also collect german coins of the 19th century, but tend to concentrate with the Napoleonic era.
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 Posted 03/30/2015  03:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bacchus2 to your friends list
Thanks!

I sort of have ....

The one I'm really missing is Friedrich I (at the time he was Hereditary Prince of Anhalt-Dessau) He never issued a thaler but he did issue a 2 and 5 mark much later and both are quite pricey. I've just his fathers as a place marker until I see what I can do.

If you click the "congress of princes" link in my signature it will take you to the page where I've listed them. Scrolling over the picture gives the names as tooltips for reference.

It was a really fun project to do - so I'd like to expand on it.

The next step was to get a coin from every one who should have been there but wasn't and I've almost done that too with just something from the contemporary kings of Denmark and Württemberg to get to complete that.
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03/30/2015 03:55 am
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 Posted 04/16/2015  1:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bacchus2 to your friends list
Another addition to this theme - excuse the terrible photo.

Ernst Louis ( 13/3/1892-9/11/1918 )
1910 3 Mark
Ob. ERNST LUDWIG GROSSHERZOG VON HESSEN
Rev. DEUTCHES REICH 1910 DREI MARK
Edge: GOTT MIT UNS
Silver 0.9000
Weight: 16.6670g, 33mm
mintage: 200,000

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 Posted 05/16/2016  5:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bacchus2 to your friends list
It's been a while since I added a coin to this collecting area but I've bought a few recently.

One is this rouble from Russia. Not particularly scarce but most are very worn. This one still has a reasonable amount of detail on it so I'm happy to add it as it was at the right price.

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 Posted 05/23/2016  4:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bacchus2 to your friends list
I've always wanted one of these. It's relevant to my general collection theme in that Maximilian I was the younger brother of the Hapsburg Emperor Franz Joseph I. He only reigned between 10 April 1864 - 19 June 1867 and after his death he was buried in Imperial Crypt, Vienna, Austria.

I think this is quite a nice one. Please note that the apparent scratch at the bottom of his beard is just a bit of fluff on the camera lens.

It's a 1 peso from Mexico City mint 1866.

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 Posted 05/24/2016  12:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GERMANICVS to your friends list
Another nice coin in your Fürstentag 1863 Project.

Maximiliano - a tragic figure in history. From the grand halls of Vienna to die in front of a mexican firing squad.
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 Posted 05/24/2016  03:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Potsdam to your friends list
You've got some really nice Thaler coins here :)
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 Posted 05/24/2016  11:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gwyde to your friends list
That's an exceptional Imperial Mexican Peso, Bacchus... and what tragedies the Hapsburg family has gone through.

Maximilian being the younger brother of Franz Joseph died in front of the firing squad after a three year reign in 1867. His wife, the Belgian princess Charlotte had shown signs of paranoia before and became insane. She returned to Europe and survived till 1927.

Rudolph, the son of Franz Joseph committed suicide in 1889. His wife Elisabeth (Sissi) was murdered near Geneva in 1898. Ultimately his nephew Franz Ferdinand became crown prince and was murdered in 1914. It triggered the start of WW-I, though Franz Joseph did not approve the escalation leading to the declaration of war.
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05/24/2016 11:33 am
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 Posted 05/24/2016  2:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bacchus2 to your friends list
Thanks - yes Franz Joseph had a lot of tragedy occur around him - Fascinating to think that in the photo right at the start of the thread all that was still in front of him. What a pity photography wasn't around even earlier - just think of the photo's that could have been!

From what I gather Maximilian I seems to have tried to do reasonably well by the people he governed in Mexico, within the framework of the time at least. I hadn't read up on his wife and didn't realize she lived on till 1927. In the grand scheme of things - that's not that long ago at all.
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 Posted 06/21/2016  4:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bacchus2 to your friends list
This project is coming to a close. I really only have two spaces to fill - of rulers who could have attended but didn't. Frederick VII of Denmark could have attended in the role of duke of Holstein and Lauenburg though it's not unsurprising that he did not.

I'm really pleased with this example I managed to acquire.

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 Posted 06/21/2016  6:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add publius to your friends list
Do you happen to know what the metrology of "9 1/4 ST = 1 MFS" is? It doesn't look like the usual "Cologne Mark" or similar German metrology.
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 Posted 06/21/2016  7:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list
Yes, poor old Emperor Maximilian. But really, what were they thinking trying to install a European Emperor in Mexico? The United States took a dim view of the attempt to recolonize the Americas. As I recollect the history, his empire was collapsing around him and he refused to leave when he had the chance.
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 Posted 06/22/2016  03:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bacchus2 to your friends list
Hi - it seems to be a reference to 9 1/4 rigsdaler species equalled one Cologne mark
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06/22/2016 03:15 am
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