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Thanks, jbuck, for doing the alignment. My post is now easier to follow. I'll try to remember that code tip next time!
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Thank you again ExoGuy for the information. I'll have a look over the cwt society site to help familiarize myself better before I post the other two.
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In the 1867 Michigan State Gazetteer, a William W. Whitlark is listed as working under Joseph George & Company in a combination music and jewelry store; this, in St. Clair. More to the point, the 1866 Detroit City Directory lists "Whitlack, William W." as being an agent for Grover & Baker's sewing machines. Whitlark was then living at 18 Macomb Street. Thus, we now know the nature of the business that this Civil War token advertised. Another source, of which I could find but a snippet, lists Whitlark as a member of the Detroit Commandery #1 for the Knights Templar in 1869.
On another note, the dies for this token were made by the firm of John Stanton, James Murdock, Jr. and William W. Spencer. These diesinkers worked at 139 West Fifth Street in Cincinnati, during the Civil War. Stanton owned the business which then struck several thousand varieties of tokens for some 440 merchants in 12 states from Iowa to NY to Alabama. The Indian head dies, replicating those used on then circulating, copper-nickel cents were among the most frequently used dies by this firm. The information about this diesinkers can be found in the revised edition of "Patriotic Civil War Tokens" by George and Melvin Fuld.
Now, we have some history attached to this scarce Civil War token ....
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P.S. - The wording on this token's obverse, being "S.M. Co." now becomes clear. That's Sewing Machine Company!
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I missed what Mint_Marq had noted in his edited comments! He had some info on Whitlack and the business. I'm gettin' old ... I do concur with his estimation of the token's worth, being $10-24. Yet, token values often come down to a roll of the dice.
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Wow, that is alot more information than I expect. It is always nice to have the history behind a coin or token. It certainly seems that the civil War tokens each carry a story along with them. A lot more interesting than mordern coins, that is for sure. Thank you again for all of your effort.
I did go to the Civl Car Society site but there is limited information available to the unpaid visitor. I have not yet decided to obtain a subsciption, but you are making a rather strong case for such a small cost.
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I am still a rookie and only own 4 Civil War tokens so far...but I am always looking out for more  I always check back to the topics on CWT waiting for the real experienced collectors to chime in. Great info EXO... I would love to see what Bad Thad's VerdiCare could do for that mean green...  |
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I did discuss this with BadThad, but I will let him express his own opinion. I would really love to purchase some of his product but it is costly to send it to Canada (by no fault of BadThad). If I had some I would attempt conserving this token, but would really not expect much success due to the extent of damage and my inexperience with the process. This token belongs to a close friend who wanted to sell it to me. Due to the condition I have declined. It will likely go on sale during our clubs semi-annual show in May, unless I change my mind. http://www.windsorcoinclub.comEdited by rikcando
02/11/2011 12:06 pm
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Are the other two also store cards from Michigan? Are they in better condition than this one? Once you hit 250 posts and are allowed to sell and trade...I might be interested in all three as a lot. That is of course you don't end up buying them.  I see the draw of the CWT force is strong and you are having trouble resisting. |
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True, the force is strong in this one Obi Wan. But too old to start his training, is he not?
I am waiting to hear back from a client and my wife has gone out to a friends, so I will work on posting the other two now. All the information I have now on them is what is written on the 2x2's. One claims to be a mule, but considering what I've learned so far, I do not see this is possible. I'll do that one first.
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02/11/2011 2:51 pm
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You took much nicer pictures than I did.
Does the treatment also stop it from spreading?
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cool token! recently picked up dix shoot them on spot no date one hoping to figure out value or rarity of
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Does the treatment also stop it from spreading? There are coins and tokens in my collection that I treated with acetone (in the form of either Blue Ribbon or the kind sold in hardware stores for about $7 a pint) and have remained in my collection for thirty-plus years. I have yet to see any spreading of suface contaminiation on any such item. I make it a point to throw away any old flips that I suspect contain PVC. Also, I refrain from using any older albums or holders that may contain contaminants. Acetone quite easily evaporates. Upon opening a pint can, I suggest wearing a mask and pouring the acetone into small bottles that can be tightly sealed. (I save the small syrup bottles that Cracker Barrel provides with an order of pancakes - personally, I prefer blueberry) Then, label the bottles. They make nice gifts for collecting friends; this, along with some Q-tips. One small bottle can be used to treat hundreds of coins. |
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I haven't had much luck with acetone on copper specimens. In fact, when I was younger I ruined a few conders after having applied acetone, even in rooms with very low light and away from water sources. I personally keep acetone away from copper.
I have had moderate luck using acetone to remove PVC residue on flipped **circulated** silver specimens. CVS sells large bottles of acetone (not fingernail polish remover) for $4.99 per bottle.
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03/16/2011 11:50 pm
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