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Pillar of the Community
United States
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what about green stuff on coins?
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Depends on what it is. Verdigris is a hard green caused by chemical reaction of copper. Verdigone from Bad Thad would be your best bet for that.
There's a soft green caused by breakdown of leather. It can be scraped off with your fingernail or a toothpick, or dissolved in acetone.
Then there's a slimy green that comes from plasticizers. Acetone will generally remove it.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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its a hard green stuff. I may have to get a hold of bad thad and see what he is offering. Thanks
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Valued Member
United States
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An alternative to acetone that is a stronger organic dissolver and should not affect metal is toluene or xylene. These are related to benzenes and are toxic so use outdoors only. Don't use acid derivatives such as alcohols as these can react with the metals. Toluene is a really good wax dissolver.
Of course test with a lower value silver coin first. I don't think purity should be a concern stuff bought at home depot should be okay.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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How about the acetone the ladies use for removing fingernail polish? Same thing?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: How about the acetone the ladies use for removing fingernail polish? Same thing?
NO, NO, NO. Read the lables on those. They contain so many different things you will be amazed that fingers don't fall off.   And many don't tell you how much of them is in their product either.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
509 Posts |
Gotcha. Thanks for that info. Now the question that comes to mind is will this treatment show up under the new PCGS Secure Plus processing system where they laser scan each coin, not only for identification purposes but also looking for any signs of alteration or treatments, i.e. chemicals, whizzing, AT etc...I haven't seen a list of ALL the things it scans for as far as foreign substances but I know it's quite extensive. For now PCGS is only using it for ultra-rare and rare coins but it will eventually work its way down to standard grading. Would I be inviting a future bodybag if I ever did decide to use acetone on a coin I wanted to submit?
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Rest in Peace
United States
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I don't see how acetone could be a problem.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: Would I be inviting a future bodybag if I ever did decide to use acetone on a coin I wanted to submit? Just be sure that the coin is dry. If put in a dlip too soon after treatment, the acetone won't escape.
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Valued Member
United States
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Wow, the acetone treatment rlly worked for you! I gotta try it...
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Revisiting this topic, I've another suggestion to offer that I neglected to previously mention.  Keep in mind that the acetone treatment is every bit as much a means of conserving a coin as it is a means of (good) cleaning - removal of foreign matter that will eventually harm the coin's surface. So, don't forget to treat the third surface, the edge, be it reeded, plain or whatever. Failure to do this will result in encapsulation of some foreign material when the coin is housed in a flip or album; thus, resulting in the likely spread of contaminants at some future date.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Would acetone be safe to use on copper as well? 
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Rest in Peace
United States
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yes. keep in mind, tho, that if it removes something that is protecting the surface underneath (oil, for example), the exposed surface will be highly reactive copper, subject to tarnish.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: Would acetone be safe to use on copper as well?
You should really do a SEARCH on the search tab at the top about Acetone. This subject has come up many, many times. But, as already noted, you can put any coin of metal in Acetone with no effects. HOWEVER, there are many problems that sometimes gets missed or igrnored. For example always use CLEAN glass articles for this project. Never allow the Adetone to evaporate on the coins. Rinse as soon as possible with distilled water. The reason is the Acetone could disolve STUFF on the coin and allowing it to evaporate, would leave that STUFF right back on the coin. The main thing is the numerous precautions and testing you should know about. Try that search tab and find a pile of info.
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New Member
United States
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Well, I'm late to the party, but I'll add a few notes from my own experiences.
First, the "purity test" mentioned above is a pretty good test. Put some on a very clean piece of glass and let it evaporate. The glass should be as clean after as it was when you started. If the "acetone" (or toluene or any other solvent for that matter) leaves a residue, it's not pure.
Generally anything from a welding supply place is going to be the purest stuff you can get. Standards for welding are extremely high for purity. For example, welding oxygen tanks are nearly an order of magnitude purer than medical oxygen. You can breath welding oxygen. But never weld with medical oxygen. But I'm wandering way off topic there.
Avoid the "nail polish remover" for cleaning purposes. It generally fails the purity test with some serious residue left behind.
As for distilled water rinse, I'm going to disagree with others. I would use a distilled water rinse before going to the acetone. That would wash away any loose surface dirt (which potentially could be abrasive).
The reason I wouldn't rinse with distilled water afterward is because water evaporates more slowly than acetone. While the coin (or other object being cleaned) is wet, it will attract airborne dirt and contaminants. Acetone evaporates much more quickly and minimizes the time window where that can happen.
On other objects that I need to clean to a very high degree of cleanliness, I have been known to rinse with acetone after a cleaning with water based cleaning products and a distilled water rinse. The acetone will wash away the wetness from the distilled water and leave the cleaned object cleaner and drier quicker.
That's my experience. YMMV.
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