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1893 Round Top Dime

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 Posted 05/15/2011  1:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add marjonbc to your friends list
My 2000 Charlton has it and the pop report for 2001 shows no EFs and only 2 AU 55's and 1 MS 60. My 2003 shows it broken out into Obv 5 and Obv 6 but nothing "attributed" over VF20 at that time. The 2006 lists 1 EF in Obv 5 and 1 EF and 1 AU in Obv 6. The muddy part will be if anyone told ICCS if they were resubmitting one of the unattributed ones so the pop reports could be adjusted. 06 is the latest pop report I have. Hope that helps
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 Posted 05/16/2011  09:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Colhand1 to your friends list
I love hearing about these varieties and makes me want to go to the bank and look at my coins again! Not long ago I found a 1935 Buffalo nickel Double die reverse EF 40, in a tube of coins that I have. Another tough coin to find about VF. But thats another story.
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 Posted 05/16/2011  6:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add glenzy1 to your friends list
Check out the latest 1893 Round Top dime to hit E-bay by Bluenose Coins. A gorgeous drop dead EF-40 and in the Top 10 best I.C.C.S known. Worth every penny, or should I say dime!


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05/16/2011 6:03 pm
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 Posted 05/16/2011  11:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1cent to your friends list
No doubt condition rare, but drop-dead gorgeous is a stretch IMO. Crud in the legend/numerals
drives me crazy, and that one has it's share on the reverse. The obverse is very nice though.

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 Posted 05/17/2011  11:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add glenzy1 to your friends list
To 1cent, when I state drop dead gorgeous, keep in mind this is a 120 year old coin, once circulated, not an MS-65 1961 silver dollar with blast white luster. And further more remember the RARITY of this coin. Ever heard the saying "beggars are not choosers", well when you look at the 2010, I.C.C.S. Population Report and it states there are only graded higher. This known stat would make you and I Beggars, not choosers, with that in mind and what I've seen of Round Top's in the past ten years, they don't come any nicer for the grade.

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 Posted 05/17/2011  12:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadian-varieties to your friends list
Strongly considering buying it. That would give me two 1893 rounded top 3s in VF30+ :)...gonna grab the 1889 dime as well in VG...slept through a 1889 dime F15 auction recently and kicking myself for it :(. Now I just have to teach my kids about their inheritance...

Question for the board...should these types of coins reside in PCGS holders instead? Seems like an ICCS VF30 could turn into a PCGS EF40, would be in a MUCH safer holder, and open to a MUCH larger market (Many US/international customers wont touch ICCS coins). Granted, Canadian collectors dont regard PCGS as highly as ICCS, nor will pay as much $$, however, it would seem the benefits of slabbing them in PCGS significantly outweight any possible downsides?

Seems like all major collections (Belzberg, Pittman, Norweb) were in PCGS holders, not ICCS. That's a curious fact in itself.



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 Posted 05/17/2011  3:07 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
Your arguments (and counter-arguments) are based on Canadian versus international customers. My question would be, are your 1893 Round Top 3s "international" calibre grades and coins? Do they have strong eye-appeal? Would they fare well at an international market (like a Heritage auction)? If so, then PCGS. If you want to protect them, and realize your return in a Canadian market, consider using CCCS hard slabs instead of the ICCS soft flip.
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 Posted 05/17/2011  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1cent to your friends list
Glenzy, I know what you are saying. For me though, I would rather have a standout VF than a solid, but
usual EF. With something like the RT3, sure...it's tough enough in EF that you can't hold out for "just the
right one" simply because it may not even exist. When I buy really key stuff though, the grade is secondary
to the eye appeal of the coin, as long as it's at least a VF. I am a beggar, and a chooser. I want a RT3
in VF, and have seen three or four cross the block, but I remain waiting for "the one" before I will buy.
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 Posted 05/17/2011  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadian-varieties to your friends list
My dark toned 1893 RT 3 VF30-EF40 is on its way :)...I'm hoping its "the one" :).
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 Posted 05/19/2011  01:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1cent to your friends list
We want pics. Oh, and I want to switch you bank accounts :D
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Arrived :)...survived very rough handling by an eager customs officer cutting left and right :)...weight is correct, color is a bit different, wondering if it was cleaned a long time ago?
The "3" is strong indeed...a few dings beside the date not as distracting in person as on photos...Obverse 6....VF30 perhaps? or ICCS VF20? :)

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 Posted 05/31/2011  11:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Colhand1 to your friends list
A VF30 for sure - based on the look of the hair below the Queen's ear. You spent a small fortune but you have a coin that will become a feature in an auction when it comes time to sell. Very nice!
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 Posted 05/31/2011  11:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add marjonbc to your friends list
Beautiful looking coin!

Wondering if anyone has a definitive way of telling if an 1898 has been altered to look like the 1893 RT in lower grades. With the weak strike that is common on the 3 it gets tough to tell in lower grades if you one is real or altered. The 9 seems to be the best indicator I have found but wondering if someone else has a better indicator than that to tell a real from an altered.
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 Posted 08/15/2011  10:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadian-varieties to your friends list
PCGS just graded it EF40 !! :)

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Nice! Top 15 coin in a PCGS holder (only 5 others share that grade, and 9 are better).
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