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Trade In Some Silver For Gold?

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 Posted 07/21/2011  7:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list

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but in a real SHTF situation, perhaps one could buy land with some gold even with a home on it, something not possible in normal times, who knows....

I've been eye-balling some nice lake property hereabouts as a possible vacation home. I'm thinking that in very bad times, such property could be had for MUCH less than it costs today. Having a sizable silver and gold hoard could well provide an opportunity to buy at what, for me, would be a relatively small cost. $10-15k worth of gold at today's prices could very well do it for those who MUST have some spendable money and property is their only asset. With few buyers around, it would be a ferocious buyers market.
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 Posted 07/22/2011  12:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list
You want gold to be lower and you want the ratio to hit 32-33 like it did a couple of months ago. You're better off buying gold as it dips back into the 1580s.

Ed_B: I think that one could buy a jalopy with an ounce of gold to get where they need to be if SHTF. Honestly, though, I think that barter items will fare much better than gold or silver if that were to happen. One day we may see more pawn shops than banks.

Stack both metals evenly over time. You don't want to be tricked into trading 60 ounces of silver for a single ounce of gold in the future, only to find out the ratio is in the 50s later.

Premiums on the small coins are there for a reason. I would definitely prefer 10 X 1/10 over 1 X 1 if I had the equal choice - the reason being that they can be used much better in commerce. If that's all you can afford during the month then it's not truly a setback since you can't afford the full ounce. Everyone wants a bargain but the amount must be bulkier.
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07/22/2011 12:10 pm
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 Posted 07/22/2011  12:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CPC24 to your friends list
Most of the coins I traded in I found in rolls or Coinstars, or just got a good deal on. I still prefer silver, but I had to have a bit of gold for my collection, and to diversify.
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 Posted 07/22/2011  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list

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Ed_B: I think that one could buy a jalopy with an ounce of gold to get where they need to be if SHTF.

Not sure what that means but I was referring to people who need to buy food or perhaps medical care and do not have anything to do it with other than property.

1/10th oz. of gold or 5 oz. of silver should have about the same buying power, yet the silver is more easily divided via dimes, quarters, and halves than even that 1/10th oz. of gold, let alone the larger gold coins. But... to each their own.

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 Posted 09/28/2011  06:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list
jalopy = clunker
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 Posted 09/28/2011  1:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mkman123 to your friends list
Gold is less volatile percentage wise......trade some silver in and get a quarter oz gold eagle or maple.....you won't regret it and might be hooked on gold. :)
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 Posted 09/28/2011  7:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mmerlinn to your friends list
One of the biggest advantages of 90% silver coins is that they are RECOGNIZABLE. People trust what they can recognize. And being easily divisible is probably the second best advantage.

Bullion of any type and gold coins are really too EXOTIC for run-of-the-mill transactions. They are not recognizable, not easily divisible, and worth too much each.
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 Posted 09/30/2011  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list

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One of the biggest advantages of 90% silver coins is that they are RECOGNIZABLE.

On the whole, I agree with your comments, Merlin. Problem is, there are also a lot of people out there who don't even realize that US coins no longer contain ANY silver or what an ASE is. There is a hilarious video on You Tube where a guy drives around, showing people an ASE and asking if they they would pay $5 for it even though it says "1 dollar" on the ASE itself. Most do not recognize it and none of them said that they would pay $5 for it. At the time, silver was in the $20-25 per oz. price range. Naturally, these same people would also not recognize a gold coin of any kind either because they have never seen one.

In a SHTF scenario, though, it would not take very long at all before people with no knowledge of PMs or collecting began to recognize real money when they saw it.
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 Posted 10/01/2011  05:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add poboxw to your friends list
Always get a kick pulling out a $20 silver maple leaf and trying to start up a conversation. Only every once in a while do I get that wide eye look though.... most aren't interested.
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 Posted 10/02/2011  01:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list

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Only every once in a while do I get that wide eye look though.... most aren't interested.


Heh heh... using my very best Yoda voice imitation here, "They will be... they WILL be!".
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 Posted 10/02/2011  8:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list
With the gold/silver ratio being over 50 to 1 and being out of kilter with the historic 16 to 1 now I think is more the time to trade Gold for Silver. Platinum is also out of kilter to gold being less costly when in is rarer. Of course just my thoughts. Do what is nest for you
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 Posted 10/02/2011  9:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list
Actually, those thoughts seem perfectly reasonable to me. At a G/S of 50, we are at the higher end of that spectrum but there is no law preventing that from becoming 80 or even 100. If it runs the other way, more towards the traditional 15 or 20, then would be the time to do the reverse and swap silver for gold.

Yes, platinum is cheaper than gold now for about the 2nd time in the past 40 or so years. This is a rare event. It makes me want to buy some Pt. So I searched the 4 web sites that sell PMs and what do I find...? Very little Pt is now available. The 1 oz. bars are very difficult to find. Most dealers with whom I deal are "out of stock" or "delayed". :-/
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 Posted 10/02/2011  11:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list
Plenty of contracts out there, sell ten gold, buy 10 pt.
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 Posted 10/03/2011  10:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list
Angel,

I am always hearing about this historic 16 to 1 silver to gold ratio, but how often in the last 100 years has it actually had a 16 to 1 ratio?
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 Posted 10/03/2011  1:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list
I think part of the reason that PM are out of normal ratios has to do with paper not backed by the PM. I honestly don't think the paper backed by the faith and trust of the govt is just not enough to withstand all the turmoil. Of course like I said just my thought and yes as we are seeing Anything can happen gold platinum spread about $150 with gold still higher. Another buying opportunity or trade. I will keep watching the mint site later this week to see if the eagles go down some more.
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