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Speculation On What The New Penny And Nickel Will Be Made Of

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 Posted 05/13/2012  1:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JSH to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe the Mint is looking into changing the composition of all coins. I would like to see the penny eliminated and all the others coins going to plated steel.
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 Posted 05/14/2012  2:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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To create the cheapest cent possible and a profitable nickel may be the immediate future.
The problem is that this is not possible for the cent. No change to its composition can provide significant savings; it is no longer worth the time and effort to make a conversion.
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 Posted 05/14/2012  3:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wquinn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And that is why Canada will no longer be making the cent later on this year.
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 Posted 05/15/2012  12:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Canada stopped making their cent on May 4th.
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 Posted 05/15/2012  12:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wquinn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! That is a lot sooner than what they were saying a few months ago. Any idea on what the final mintage is?
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Canada stopped making their cent on May 4th.
They win.
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 Posted 05/15/2012  6:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The dime is a horrible denomination whilst the penny and nickel are still around. A child can plainly see this.

@JustCarl: Maybe you should come over to the "darkside". The debate here is precisely what you describe. We're paying massive of tax dollars on politicians who do nothing for us. We pay for their hotels, orange juice, limousines, etc. To add to that we even pay when royalty visits. I thought we were independant but we're not.

Fact is, these little coins WOULD have value and use in our monetary systems if we knew how to wisely spend them. There should be referendums on EVERYTHING.
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05/15/2012 6:54 pm
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 Posted 05/18/2012  2:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JSH to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Libertad: Why do you think the dime is a horrible denomination?
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 Posted 05/18/2012  3:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenRingold to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
100 per cent pure Zinc. Look at World War II coinage from around the world, and you have your answer.
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The US dime has no zinc. It is copper-nickel clad.
http://www.usmint.gov/about_the_min...ecifications

The politicians want to replace the copper with steel, like what Canada has been doing for many years.
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05/18/2012 3:40 pm
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 Posted 05/18/2012  4:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MercuryDime to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@JSH, I'm not sure what he means either, and ironically, personally in my area, dimes are the smallest denomination that can actually buy something [a single penny candy, yes, penny].
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 Posted 05/19/2012  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mvandemark to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't foresee the penny going anywhere anytime soon. If they got rid of the penny, the government would have to rewrite a good chunk of the tax code. Not to mention state sales taxes would have to either go up to 10% or drop down to 5%. Do either and you lose. At 10% the villagers will be at the gates to the governor's mansion with torches and pitchforks. Drop it and the state loses money in visible arterial spurts.
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I don't foresee the penny going anywhere anytime soon. If they got rid of the penny, the government would have to rewrite a good chunk of the tax code. Not to mention state sales taxes would have to either go up to 10% or drop down to 5%.

Absolute bull.

Many states have sales tax rates like 6.125%. We've NEVER had a 0.125¢ piece, but they didn't jump from 5 to 10¢.

Property taxes are often numbers like 3.9 mills. There is legally a mill ($0.001), but no 0.9 mill.

If they had any sense, they'd eliminate the cent, nickel and dime. Paper and plastic payments would continue to the cent, coin transactions would be rounded.

I got a nice Siam chicken curry lunch for the animal and I (one of her favorites). The total was $7.77, I handed over a ten and got back two ones and a quarter. She could have given exact change, but why bother?
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I have noticed more and more establishments not bothering with pennies these days, giving back change to the nearest nickel. A McDonald's near me has given me change without pennies several times and a few other places have as well.

I think it is merely a matter of time before they eliminate the cent and it won't be long after that the nickel as well.
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 Posted 05/22/2012  10:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MercuryDime to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@wquinn pure steel would be even cheaper today, that'd be quite a retro trip to 1943! As long as nobody confused them with dimes [i.e was careful] and understood the copper was a necessary victim of budget cuts and the coin itself would eventually follow.

Also, the problem with getting rid of the nickel guys, is the quarter...

going from $ .10 to $ .25 is problematic because a 5 cent difference still exists in one coin, and remember, the Canadian nickel only costs about 3 cents to produce [it is a little thinner though] so it can still be profitable for the time being.
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05/22/2012 11:01 pm
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