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Niobium - Newest Coin

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No dyes are used for this. The colours are achieved by creating a thin oxide layer on the niobium. light reflects off the oxide layer out of phase with the light reflecting off the actual niobium. These out of phase light rays cause optical interference creating the perceived colours. Different oxide thickness gives different colours. Niobium like titanium produces these oxide layers consistently by applying various electrical voltages.
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No dyes are used for this. The colours are achieved by creating a thin oxide layer on the niobium


You are correct. Niobium is anodized without dies. Very strange metal.
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that is why no two coins are alike...each coin will be different because of the way niobium was anodized.
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I have two of the Wolf coins - one from the mint and one from CP - and they look exactly the same; even magnified. The others that I've seen look the same.

Does anyone have one that looks significantly different than say, the picture on mint.ca. If so, please post a picture. Curious to see the degree of variations.
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Thats interesting, maybe It will be hard to find a truly "different" looking coin. But part of their whole thing with this coin at RCM was that "no two coins will be alike" because of how each piece of niobium reacts
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I think any differences would be in subtle variation in colour. May be pretty difficult to see the difference with the naked eye.
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You would not anodize each component separately, you would do it in batches. When I do anodizing at home I would do 10 to 100 parts. Industrial anodizing may have batches of hundreds or thousands of parts. That being said you can not anodize every part the same even in a batch. The bulk of the parts will be the same but you get will get some variation. The fact that niobium's color is dependent on process more than anything else and all the coins look the same makes me wonder how they are oxidizing these parts and if they are treated with color after or if the parts are just aluminum. Niobium is not magnetic so unless you do a hardness test or a chemical test you can never tell.
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I think any differences would be in subtle variation in colour. May be pretty difficult to see the difference with the naked eye.


That's kind of what I'm getting at. The mint is marketing these with the assertion that 'Each niobium core was selectively oxidized to create a unique finish--no two coins are exactly alike!'.

Yet if a person cannot see a difference, are they truly unique? If you have to go to a molecular or microscopic level to see a difference, then IMO, that is not really a fair statement by the mint.

I'm hoping someone has one that is really different.


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Marketing ploy... Is it the difference between the "truth" and the "whole truth"? :)
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Would the selective anodization really be the deciding factor in getting this coin? I think the most interesting thing is the cool case it comes in.
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@fkl118, the case feels cheap in hand, in my opinion. It's wood but there's no weight to it and it lacks details
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I like the case, but yeah it looks like some resin, polymer or something - not real wood.

Way better than the 2005-2006 style cassette tape case IMO.
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Casset v.s. niobium cases

Niobium---Newest-Coin
Niobium---Newest-Coin

Niobium---Newest-Coin
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@poboxw, I think the cassette looks better. BTW, are you still waiting for your hunter's moon?
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speaking of case, these are the best I have ever owned
Niobium---Newest-Coin
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