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Source For Large Cent Variety Photos?

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I've been using the old coinfacts website to determine the varieties of my large cents. However, the photos stop in the 1840s. Tried the new site, but it isn't complete either. I've been filling in by finding some of the varieties on auction sites. Is there a source that has a complete, or near complete set of variety pictures?
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 Posted 07/15/2012  4:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not to my knowledge. The "information should be free" orientation of the Internet has not quite yet penetrated numismatics, given that much of this information only exists because of the sweat from the brow of single individuals who devoted their lives to that one subspecialty. Had I the ability to post every single Large Cent variety in one place, I would be hesitant to do so for fear of stepping on the prerogatives of those who came before.

Your best bet is to acquire Grellman and Reiver's book.
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This might be somewhat helpful:

http://www.largecents.net/collection/index.html

It has at least some varieties pictured up to 1857.

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I wouldn't mind paying a little. The new coinfacts site doesn't seem to be complete.

I can try the books. Are any still in print?
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HERE you go. Not sure if anything is still in print per se but everything can be found on ebay for a price....
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This website is among my favorites:

http://images.goldbergauctions.com/...4&lang=1#toc
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@ExoGuy

Thanks. Lots of pix there. Eighty two 1847 cents in one collection?

@tights24

$99 just for volume one? Yikes. Don't suppose there are digital versions.
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There are so many books on coins on the market but for some reason some coins just don't make for a lot of books. For example only one I know of on Mercury dimes. And Large Cents are so sought after you would think there would be a lot of books, pamphlets, etc on them. I try to use the Red Book to figure out which is which but some dealers tell me there are many, many varieities not covered in that one too.
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$99 just for volume one? Yikes. Don't suppose there are digital versions


None that are probably legal to post here, that's for sure. You run into copyright infringement pretty fast on the internet these days. Our forum owners always ask for permission from the document owners before posting anything here for that reason.

That being said, $99 is a one time fee. Try buying a Krause catalog for twice that much or one of Breen's books that are in the $300 range I think......

Good luck in your search.
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Might be worth some searching through used book stores. Also, I've been wondering about those Salvation Army stores for books on coins.
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The Goldberg archives, what you want is the Dan Holmes collection

Early dates, every variety except 1793 NC-5
http://images.goldbergauctions.com/...ng=1&sale=54

Middle dates, every variety except the newly discovered 1825 N-5 which is obv of N-4/rev of N-10
http://images.goldbergauctions.com/...ng=1&sale=59

Late dates, every variety except for the unique 1851 N-42
http://images.goldbergauctions.com/...ng=1&sale=62

A word of warning, with the late dates unless there are distinctive die cracks for a variety the only difference you are going to see in the pictures is the slight differences in the positioning of the date on the obverse. The other die markers that identify the different dies are almost always too fine to see in online photos.

Even with these photos you do really need the books that go along with each series.
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Impressive there Conder101. I never knew there was so much out there on Large Cents. Not sure how you do that but you always find things like that.
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Thanks Conder

Yes, I noticed as I progress through my collection I find that the variations become much more subtle. On anything VF or less it's pretty hard to tell.
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Not difficult, I know Dan and since I collect the early dates I followed the auctions of his collection. I have two copies of each of them. (three of the early dates, two of the regular catalog and a copy of the special preview catalop that was limited to three hundred copies and was distributed at EAC several months before the regular catalog was mailed out.) Since I know the collection, and I know who sold it it was a simple matter to find them in the archives. And since I use them myself I have them bookmarked.
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I too find the Holmes collection Goldberg catalogs invaluable. Excellent photography. These along with selected texts are what you need.
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One of the biggest reasons there aren't that many photo resources for large cent varieties is a simple explanation. The Sheldon and Newcomb folks have a straglehold on the information, since most get attributed through their research anyways. Which is why a copy of Sheldon's book, Penny Whimsey, is still a $40-75 book.
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