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Source For Large Cent Variety Photos?

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 Posted 07/15/2012  6:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list
HERE you go. Not sure if anything is still in print per se but everything can be found on ebay for a price....
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 Posted 07/15/2012  8:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list
This website is among my favorites:

http://images.goldbergauctions.com/...4&lang=1#toc
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 Posted 07/15/2012  10:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldSkoolMadSkilz to your friends list
@ExoGuy

Thanks. Lots of pix there. Eighty two 1847 cents in one collection?

@tights24

$99 just for volume one? Yikes. Don't suppose there are digital versions.
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 Posted 07/15/2012  10:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
There are so many books on coins on the market but for some reason some coins just don't make for a lot of books. For example only one I know of on Mercury dimes. And Large Cents are so sought after you would think there would be a lot of books, pamphlets, etc on them. I try to use the Red Book to figure out which is which but some dealers tell me there are many, many varieities not covered in that one too.
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 Posted 07/16/2012  08:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list

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@tights24

$99 just for volume one? Yikes. Don't suppose there are digital versions


None that are probably legal to post here, that's for sure. You run into copyright infringement pretty fast on the internet these days. Our forum owners always ask for permission from the document owners before posting anything here for that reason.

That being said, $99 is a one time fee. Try buying a Krause catalog for twice that much or one of Breen's books that are in the $300 range I think......

Good luck in your search.
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 Posted 07/16/2012  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
Might be worth some searching through used book stores. Also, I've been wondering about those Salvation Army stores for books on coins.
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 Posted 07/17/2012  10:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
The Goldberg archives, what you want is the Dan Holmes collection

Early dates, every variety except 1793 NC-5
http://images.goldbergauctions.com/...ng=1&sale=54

Middle dates, every variety except the newly discovered 1825 N-5 which is obv of N-4/rev of N-10
http://images.goldbergauctions.com/...ng=1&sale=59

Late dates, every variety except for the unique 1851 N-42
http://images.goldbergauctions.com/...ng=1&sale=62

A word of warning, with the late dates unless there are distinctive die cracks for a variety the only difference you are going to see in the pictures is the slight differences in the positioning of the date on the obverse. The other die markers that identify the different dies are almost always too fine to see in online photos.

Even with these photos you do really need the books that go along with each series.
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 Posted 07/17/2012  7:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
Impressive there Conder101. I never knew there was so much out there on Large Cents. Not sure how you do that but you always find things like that.
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 Posted 07/18/2012  12:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldSkoolMadSkilz to your friends list
Thanks Conder

Yes, I noticed as I progress through my collection I find that the variations become much more subtle. On anything VF or less it's pretty hard to tell.
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 Posted 07/18/2012  3:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
Not difficult, I know Dan and since I collect the early dates I followed the auctions of his collection. I have two copies of each of them. (three of the early dates, two of the regular catalog and a copy of the special preview catalop that was limited to three hundred copies and was distributed at EAC several months before the regular catalog was mailed out.) Since I know the collection, and I know who sold it it was a simple matter to find them in the archives. And since I use them myself I have them bookmarked.
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 Posted 07/18/2012  8:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Penny Guy to your friends list
I too find the Holmes collection Goldberg catalogs invaluable. Excellent photography. These along with selected texts are what you need.
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 Posted 07/19/2012  2:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kookoox10 to your friends list
One of the biggest reasons there aren't that many photo resources for large cent varieties is a simple explanation. The Sheldon and Newcomb folks have a straglehold on the information, since most get attributed through their research anyways. Which is why a copy of Sheldon's book, Penny Whimsey, is still a $40-75 book.
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 Posted 07/19/2012  3:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list
Completely unrelated but your Dan Holmes link made me want to attribute my 1841 cent!
(For the record, it was probably a N-2: end of curl pointing to top right corner of the 4 in date and no visible die cracks altogether.)
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 Posted 07/19/2012  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
these aren't really pages of all the varieties but there are allot of them for sale on these sites and are listed by variety that usually has nice size pictures to look at
http://earlycents.com/
http://butternut.org/coins/coincatalogs.html (not allot of pictures)
http://www.earlycoppercoins.com/


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One of the biggest reasons there aren't that many photo resources for large cent varieties is a simple explanation. The Sheldon and Newcomb folks have a straglehold on the information, since most get attributed through their research anyways. Which is why a copy of Sheldon's book, Penny Whimsey, is still a $40-75 book.

I would think if someone had a collection or had a source of allot of different varieties they could make the information available online with their own images
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 Posted 07/19/2012  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list

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One of the biggest reasons there aren't that many photo resources for large cent varieties is a simple explanation. The Sheldon and Newcomb folks have a straglehold on the information, since most get attributed through their research anyways. Which is why a copy of Sheldon's book, Penny Whimsey, is still a $40-75 book.


The difference between a coin collector and true numismatist is knowledge. Some years ago, I invested in the Sheldon book, and it has paid for itself literally hundreds of times over; this, especially so in the past two years. There are rare varieties out there, awaiting discovery, and such coins continue to appear. My three best buys have been at a flea market, a coin auction and an antique shop. Investment in coin books and garnering knowledge therein can reap great rewards; and, not simply financial rewards. There's a great thrill attached to finding NC or Non-Collectible varieties of large cents, condition census coins and the like that are thousands of times rarer in numbers than the SVDB's and 16-D's!

Also, joining organizations like the EAC, the CWTS, etc. will bring a collector in contact with the folks who supposedly have a strangle-hold on a particular coin series. These are great folks, true numismatists, and they eagerly share their knowledge! I've made some fine friendships among the ranks of these true numismatists who share the joy of others' learning, too.

Also, as this thread well illustrates, there are online resources aplenty for those willing to search and study. IMHO, the only strangle-hold we collectors face, lies within our own mind.
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