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Super Deep Strike Large Cent

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 Posted 07/15/2012  7:19 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add OldSkoolMadSkilz to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This large cent seems to be struck super deep. Is this normal for production coins? Is it just the lighting?

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 Posted 07/15/2012  7:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't like it. Details are soft looking and the photos are terrible due to the lighting angle and color. See if he will send you better photos before bidding on this thing.
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 Posted 07/15/2012  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think the strike is deep because of the missing detail in the hair, I believe its just the color that making this one look deep like that. I don't like the looks of this coin. The dark fields make this coin really ugly in my opinion

Edit: after looking closer at the picture I believe he has done some work in a photo editing program to make it look like this. The color is way off for a copper coin and I believe its because he has messed with the contrast and other things in some type of program
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 Posted 07/15/2012  7:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cipster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Something is bothering me about this coin but I'm not smart enough to know what it is.

I hope that some of our experts will provide a better answer.
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It's the lighting and post processing. I've bought some IHCs that looked like that in the photos, but not in hand when received.
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From the pictures, the coin looks like a copy to me.
Perhaps from die copies, with the dies tooled before use.
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07/15/2012 11:24 pm
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Aye there is some serious post-process photo manipulation going on there. The contrast is far too high.

In truth, there's really no way to tell as you're not "really" looking at a picture of the actual coin. :-)
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The detail is not terribly strong. What I found interesting was the depth of the letters and date. I think it may be an illusion from the way the coin was lit.
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Bidding ended and no one grabbed it so must be lots of people out there with same doubts.
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Cleaned at the very least
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It's the lighting. And of course from these images you really can't tell anything about the actual color. I do think that it has been cleaned. And as far as Grade I'd say F-15 details, maybe a few claims to a 20 but with the horrible images there is no way to assign a net grade other than to say it will be lower than the sharpness grade.
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In my opinion, this is a counterfeit.
Being a circulated coin, it can't have that deep of a strike, even with sideway light source.
The strike is too soft around the devices, indicating counterfeit.
And most of all, letters in UNITED is spaced further apart from each other.
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I think AU90o may have a point here. I can't match up the variety to any known 1828 variety.
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If you look at his feedback, somebody returned it once before and gave him negative feedback for altered date.
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I looked at some of the other coin she has sold in the past. Every photo has been doctored. Not sure why people buy from someone like this.
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