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The Smallest Bronze / Brass / Billon Denomination.
1) Only one (1) coin per Member. (make it count, the coin will stand on its own)
2) Coin Parameters :Coin can have any device from any Region of the ancient world. The coin can be from any Era, Dawn of Bronze (BC 500ish) coinage to Byzantine collapse, AD 1476. Coin has to be attributable / or at least partially and the coin must be whole. You must have weight or maximum diameter or both, which is preferred. The coin must be an authentic relic. Barbarian types, ancient counterfeits are fine and encouraged. The coin cannot have competed in a prior Smackdown, unless its your smallest denomination or coin size.
3) Voting: Each member will compete with there bronze coin in all three tiers. Each member will submit 3 votes. The one with the higest sum will win. Tier 1)= Gold = 4 pts, Tier 2)= Silver = 2 pts, Tier 3) = Bronze = 1 pt.
4) Judgement: As many are not lavish collectors with huge budgets and a vast numismatic network of dealers, many people have crude or "inexpensive" types. I urge you all when judging take this into consideration. Please don't judge soley on immediate eye appeal, but obviously submit your best piece, thats why we are here. :-). Remember here we are going to be dealing with the smallest of all ancient bronze relics. The main judging factor here is size!
Winner chooses next Smackdown Subject....
Entries Begin Immediatley and Submission Ends @ 20:00hrs EST USA, WEDNESDAY, 8/1/12
Voting will last 1 day. Ending at 20:00hrs THURSDAY Edited by Ancientnoob
07/30/2012 8:16 pm
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This is a good SMACKDOWN to have. Although, if I remember right one of our posters here has a coin so small it's about the size of the Lincoln Memorial building on the reverse of a US penny! Here is my entry.  Arcadius AE 4. D N ARCADIVS P F AVG, pearl-diademed, draped & cuirassed bust right / VOT V in wreath. RIC IX Constantinopolis 62B.1, 383-408 AD AE4, 1.20g, 12.0mm Edited by Gil-galad
07/30/2012 8:56 pm
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Check out this relatively rare, super small 8 millimeter coin. Anatolia, Mysia, Troas,( Troad, Troy ), The city of Cebren (Kebren) c. 350-310 BC AE8 0.92g Obverse: Youthful, Laureate head of Apollo. Reverse: Ram's Head right. Black Patina, nice dirt.... very sexy. Nate  Edited by Ancientnoob
07/30/2012 8:13 pm
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My smallest whole bronze (my Zeno is smaller by 1 mm but is a little chipped). This one just has some of the designs off-flan. Emperor Leo I, Eastern Roman Empire (reigned 457-474 AD), 10 mm Obv: DN LEO PF AVG, pearl-diademed, draped cuirassed bust right. Rev: No legend, Lion crouched facing right, CON in ex, Constantinople mint, RIC 674  Fun fact about this reverse type: because many of these very late Roman bronzes were too small to incorporate the obverse legend (with the emperor's name) fully, many emperors resorted to putting monograms combining the letters of their names into symbols. Leo got creative and also had coins minted with a lion on the reverse. Since Leo in Latin means lion, people looking at these coins would know those were coins of him. Edited by VisigothKing
07/30/2012 8:32 pm
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@ALL- Please provide "dates" of your coin. (to further the enjoyment of your piece)
Great fast entries from the Roman Empire! Bring'em on
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07/30/2012 8:24 pm
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Honorius (A.D. 393-423) AE Follis AE4, A.D. 393-395, uncertain mint, 13.5mm, 1.09g, 0°, Sear 4258. Obv: D N HONORIVS P F AVG. Pearl-diademed, draped and cuirassed bust right, star left. Rev: SALVS REIPVBLICAE. Victory walking left, dragging captive, trophy over shoulder, Chi-Rho in field.  |
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My smallest whole bronze (my Zeno is smaller by 1 mm but is a little chipped). This one just has some of the designs off-flan.
Emperor Leo I, Eastern Roman Empire (reigned 457-474 AD), 10 mm
I have this coin as well, but not in quite as good of shape. Mine, though is only 9mm and .9g. So slightly smaller. I don't think it's my smallest though. I'm still looking through my catalog. |
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NIce Leo VK, I'm still looking for one of his coins.
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Another great entry!!
@Joseph- Look at all the action happening on the back of a 13.5mm! Thats pretty cool, The goddess Victory/ Nike dragging captives with a CHI-RHO. I don't know a lot about these latter types but isn't CHI-RHO a Christian Symbol? If so it makes it that much cooler. Conflicting gods/ traditions = cool.
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oh small coins so thought provoking...My mother used to tell me, "small things amuse small minds."....I disagree with her hypothesis and argue the amusement derived from small things is inversely rather then directly proportional to the adjusted gross volume of the intellectual capability of the mind. The same thing cannot be said for similar research regarding shiny things, study is still on going.
@Gil I am having warm fuzzy about your entry. There's something very cool about the Arcadius Portraiture. A fabulous "small" entry.
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07/30/2012 9:31 pm
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I have a question. Is the coin suppose to be the smallest in your collection or say the best of the smaller coins? As an example, I have a Leo and a Valentine III that are under 10mm, but are not coins with great eye appeal. I would even go so far as to say it's most difficult to even tell what they are. On the other hand, I have a couple of very nice coins say in the 11-12mm size with much better eye appeal.
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My smallest whole bronze (my Zeno is smaller by 1 mm but is a little chipped). This one just has some of the designs off-flan. Well, mine is quite chipped also but plenty attributable. Not sure if the "must be whole" is a good idea. Kind of vague. Edited by MartiVltori
07/30/2012 9:36 pm
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@JW....I think you should use your best judgement, Size is the predominate factor. So if you think you can get more brownie points from the voters for the "Smallness" of your design, or if you think they will be reluctant to choose you becuase your on a little bigger of a flan. Again though, size is an important factor, I wouldn't risk going to 12mm when you have a 10mm ab,e, to compete. A sub 10mm people might look past a rough device. So far Marti Has a strong entry. A bigger flan but all sorts of stuff going on on the reverse.
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My smallest coin is 8mm but it can not be attributed, my next smallest coin is this one at 10mm. I hope this meets the requirements, If not I will post something else.  Celtic Ring Coin 10MM Circa 500BC Western Europe. |
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Chipped is fine. No Half coins, coins missing a quarter of the original size etc. Forgive me for being vague when saying whole.
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It looks like celtic proto money, thats cool, tough call I would go with the coin in the tradition sense. Enter it if you want I think its cool.
Great entry, brownie points for originality. ;-)
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07/30/2012 9:52 pm
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