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Athens New Style Tetradrachm Value

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 Posted 08/31/2012  9:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Sel. I will keep all the documentation for sure. The one thing that made me even consider this coin was the dealer. This firm is perhaps one of the most reputable in the market today. It's Harlan J Berk LTD. I think most will recognize this seller. But, even the best can be fooled so I will do what I can to authenticate.
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 Posted 08/31/2012  9:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidUK to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I used to work a great deal with silver and when you don't get your temperatures correct in casting it does have an effect like that, particularly with heavy thick castings like solid bangles etc

Having said that they all seem to be mainly on one side of the coin and also distributed pretty evenly. If I were to attempt to cast a coin the natural place to attach the sprue would be at the top, not directly to the face of the coin...in which case I might expect the bubbles to effect both sides equally and also not be so evenly distributed.

That's just speculation on my part I can't say the cause of the pitting but I am giving some anecdotal evidence to say it may not be casting. (Though pressumably the blanks were cast in ancient times as I wouldn't think they would have mills and stuff to roll the silver into sheets, if someone knows how they made the blanks then please explain)

Anyway, my opinion is that the reverse is beautiful and if you got it for less than a couple of hundred bucks it certainly is worth it just for that lovely owl :)

Some other beautiful coins in this thread too... I approve of all of them, now I hope I stumble across one going for a song.
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08/31/2012 9:45 pm
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 Posted 08/31/2012  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bing ... Ummmm, after reading our e-mail excahnge, I am "hoping" that it has all been a misunderstanding? ...

a ) did you end-up purchasing your original posted coin, or the coin that I posted?

b) was it a coincidence that you were referring to it as the Thompson coin (for amazingly, I live in the town of Thompson) ...

... and sadly, that's where it all started going awol ...

Sorry, if it was merely a series of coincidenses ... oh, and I'm sorry that Friday Night is "never" a good time to chat on line ...



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 Posted 08/31/2012  10:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
.....never
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 Posted 08/31/2012  10:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Jerry, Jerry,

Never doubt that I am your friend and would never do anything to harm that friendship. No, I purchased the coin I originally posted NOT the coin you posted. The Thompson 477a is a catalog number. Thompson is a catalog of Greek coins and the coin you posted is Thompson 1067. Same style, different coin.

I think it is understood on this forum that when a member asks opinions of a potential purchase, it is unethical for another member to jump in and purchase said coin unless the original poster indicates he is no longer interested. At least I would never do such a thing to my fellow collectors. So Jerry, the mystery is solved and our friendship is salvaged.
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 Posted 08/31/2012  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Since many have expressed a desire to know what I eventually paid for this coin, I suppose I will oblige. I was thinking about saving the price for one of the guess the price games. But I think some of you already know what HJB was asking, so I will post it now. I was able to get it shipped for a total of $169. Much more than I am used to paying, but after one of the Smackdowns where I think Martin posted a new style Tet, I felt like I really wanted one of these. Now I have to look for an affordable "old style" Tet.
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 Posted 08/31/2012  10:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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=> phew ... Thank God, Bing ... because you are definitely one of the main reasons I log-onto this site (for good-times)

... I'm sorry I steved-out on you (my bad)

NOTE => apparently every 2,200 or so posts, I go postal!
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08/31/2012 10:19 pm
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 Posted 09/01/2012  01:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
jwharper: If you purchased the coin from Harlan J Berk Ltd., for the price you have mentioned, I think ya done good.

Congratulations. I am slightly envious.

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 Posted 09/01/2012  01:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I was able to get it shipped for a total of $169.
For that price, I would be very happy with another Athenian owl in my collection. An Athenian tet before the 'intermediate style' in this condition will be a little more.
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 Posted 09/01/2012  5:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The weight on this coin is 16.8g which seems to be in line with other Tets of this type.

Will someone explain to me how to date these coins. This coin is suppose to be dated 124/3BC. But I have no idea how they get to that year. The Greek letters at the bottom I think provide the date, but I don't have any understanding. "HPA" means what? And how to make this correspond with our modern understanding of BC/AD years? Please help me to understand.
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 Posted 09/01/2012  6:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eng5858 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


Nice coin, great price, well done...
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 Posted 09/01/2012  11:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great choice JW you did well!
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 Posted 09/01/2012  11:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Will someone explain to me how to date these coins. This coin is suppose to be dated 124/3BC. But I have no idea how they get to that year.
I notice on Wildwinds, some dates for 'new style' tets are pretty specific, while others are broader. So far, I have not found a key to dating these online.
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 Posted 09/15/2012  4:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This coin finally arrived today after a small delay in shipping from the seller (not a problem). I couldn't be more pleased with the coin. It is beautiful even with the pox. Actually, the images are unforgiving of the pot marks. It does not look as bad in hand. Here are my images:

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The weight on this coin is amazing and the silver is well toned. I think you get the idea that I am pleased. This kinda coin could make a fella look deeper into Greek coins. Did I tell you how much I like this coin?
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 Posted 09/15/2012  5:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice! It looks altogether better in your pictures--especially the owl.
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