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Code Breaker Contest #10

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Pillar of the Community
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 Posted 08/31/2012  7:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tzarmarko to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm interested in coins.......>:)
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 Posted 08/31/2012  7:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LTMets44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Let me know if anyone is interested in coins.


Is that another hint?
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 Posted 08/31/2012  11:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larsdog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Oh no your not! If your going to participate in my contest, Lars, I may just as well send you the prize now.


tzarmarko - I can skip the next one, too, if you wish. I just enjoy the mental exercise. I own a small business, have two young children, and therefore very limited free time. The current contest would require more time than I can allocate, but it might be a very worthwhile adventure for those with more disposable hours. So far I have given away everything I have won, plus more, with the exception of a Franklin half I'm hoping to trade some day. (If not, I'll crack it open and put it in my Type Set album). So it's usually not about the prize for me. However, if you're giving away a 1909 S VDB Lincoln Cent, I can probably allocate a few more disposable hours!
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 Posted 08/31/2012  11:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tzarmarko to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Haha if you want to, feel free to participate. Just if you get it off the bat, wait for others to at least get a clue. ;) Sorry, if I had a 1909 S VDB to give away I prob wouldn't be living in a modest NJ suburb. Lol.
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 Posted 09/01/2012  3:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jg86 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is ASCII involved?
Should we try converting the code using the "bases" first, or "unzip" it first?
Is base 2 involved?
Is base 3 involved?
Is base 4 involved?
Is base 5 involved?
Is base 6 involved?
Is base 7 involved?
Is base 8 involved?
Is base 9 involved?
Is base 10 involved?
Is a base higher than 10 involved?
Was pi supposed to be 3rd base?
Was pi supposed to represent 3?
Do we use each base on the same number of characters?
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 Posted 09/01/2012  8:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hint # 1.0

The base is constant throughout.

The base is big enough to accommodate the alphabet and three special characters (thus a character per character coding).
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 Posted 09/03/2012  11:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tzarmarko to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Common guys, participate.
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 Posted 09/03/2012  12:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bases basically bring on my brain burnout.
This morning I had the thought,
"ANY base is sufficient to represent ANY number.

Now, if the "Hint" were framed as:
"The base is sufficient to represent 26 letter and three punctuation marks, USING ONLY
two/three/four ... symbols," THEN I mght come back in.

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 Posted 09/03/2012  12:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdavis18 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You could always as that question...lol
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 Posted 09/03/2012  1:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just throw out ideas.
I have NO problem with other people using my ideas to solve this code.
Let them state my idea in the form of a question.

"Alex, what is, 'How many symbols are needed in the base?"

"You have fifteen seconds ... GOOD LUCK!"


"Join us tomorrow on ... Jeopardy!"
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 Posted 09/03/2012  4:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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"ANY base is sufficient to represent ANY number.

Yes, but!

We're using decimal system in everyday life, and indeed we can represent any number ... but we often need more than one digit. If I use a big enough base then all my (numbered, i.e. in a certain order) characters can be represented with a single "digit" i.e. symbol.
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 Posted 09/03/2012  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To represent 29 characters with a single digit would require ...
base 30? 26 letters plus 3 punctuations = 29
26 letters plus 10 numbers = 36. More than enough symbols.
CRUEL! Say it isn't so.

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 Posted 09/04/2012  11:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I decided 29 was enough (what I needed in my sentence). So it is just like base 30 explained on Wikipedia minus one unnecessary symbol.
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 Posted 09/04/2012  11:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
But dare I say that, unlike the explanation provided by Wikipedia,
You started with the letters, A through Z, plus three numbers.
Perhaps you chose more more numbers than you needed.
This has to end soon.
My brain wants to explode!
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 Posted 09/04/2012  11:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My Coding Chart

The alphabet is in the middle, top is one way, bottom - the other.

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