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Another Ruined Gold Coin, Type 3 Gold Dollar

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Looks like it was jewelry. There's solder over the date.




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 Posted 12/09/2012  07:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BLadd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ouch! Looks like it was possibly a button or cuff link. Shame.
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I think youve got it BLadd; button or cufflink
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A lady's brooch was the first thing that came to mind.
Too small.
Perfect size for a man's cuff links.
Or buttons for either a man or a woman.

Many years ago I attended an antiques fair. Gold coins turned into ornamental jewelry
were offered for sale. Perhaps the most "showy" piece was a man's belt decorated
with about a dozen or so $20 Gold Pieces.
I thought it ugly myself. Sad really. Oh well ...

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You can remove the solder without doing any more damage to this coin. What I did was use the acid intended for testing silver. It is red in color. Just place the coin inside a small metal or glass container with a cover/lid or you can use an old book to cover the opening. I had used an old candy tin. Place the coin inside the container and place enough of the acid to cover the reverse. You do not need to immerse the coin just let it pool on the reverse. This acid will NOT harm the gold. I have let it sit on a gold coin for two days. The first day I dabbed off the acid about every two or three hours and replaced it with fresh acid. Then I let the acid stay over night and by the morning all the silver solder was gone. It exposes all the damage but it looks better than a glob of silver solder on the reverse.
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Lots of jeweler's copies have been made of the American small gold coins.

I would prefer to buy a genuine ruined gold coin for bullion than a jeweler's copy.
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You can remove the solder without doing any more damage to this coin. What I did was use the acid intended for testing silver. It is red in color. Just place the coin inside a small metal or glass container with a cover/lid or you can use an old book to cover the opening. I had used an old candy tin. Place the coin inside the container and place enough of the acid to cover the reverse. You do not need to immerse the coin just let it pool on the reverse. This acid will NOT harm the gold. I have let it sit on a gold coin for two days. The first day I dabbed off the acid about every two or three hours and replaced it with fresh acid. Then I let the acid stay over night and by the morning all the silver solder was gone. It exposes all the damage but it looks better than a glob of silver solder on the reverse.


Yep. (As someone who has refined gold can attest to).
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You may even be able to identify the date if the solder is safely removed
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Looks like it was used as a tie tac and if you wear ties, have a jeweler make it back into one so that you can wear it and enjoy it. I have one just like it made from a damaged 1862 type 3.
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I had purchased an 1851C (yes, 'C') 1 dollar gold piece which was made into a cuff link. The damage is still there, very visible, however, the post and solder are gone. She's still a rare coin with (judging by what a damaged one brought on ebay) some added value too.
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If only someone knew how to properly remove that solder--the gouging may have been averted.
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OK, thanks for those suggestions. Project solder removal has begun, I'll post results once the solder's gone. Hope the date is readable under there. Whoever turned this into jewelry might've also roughed up the solder site first.

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Good luck with the project, looks like it was a really nice coin at one time. Reverse looks to have some doubling on it.
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It looks like the best case scenario would be that it is an 1865, which carries the highest premium of the P mint issues in low grades
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thats too bad!
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That's a tiny amount of real estate for the date. I just looked at the PCGS grading pics and noticed that it seems some 1860's dates were small like that-- the other decade dates are much much larger.

In my pics, the last number looks like it might be a 2.

My prediction is that it will prove to be an 1862.
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