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Commems Collection Modern: 1976 Bicentennial Ike Error

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 Posted 09/30/2013  11:20 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I recently picked up this Bicentennial Ike error - - " a curved clip planchet error. I'm not a dedicated error coin collector, but I have picked up a few when they are on commemorative coins. Errors on large coins such as the Ike dollar are generally less available than those on smaller, higher volume coins (for example, quarters), so when I spotted this one I decided to pursue it.

The 15% clip is obvious in the images, but the minor clip listed on the label is a bit tougher to spot. On the obverse, it's between the "B" and "E" of "LIBER" at the 12 o'clock position, on the reverse it is seen between the "E" and "D" of "ONE DOLL" at the 6 o'clock position.

The coin appears rather dull in my images - a result of being scanned vs. photographed - but the coin actually has nice cartwheel luster and minimal marks.

Anyone else have any commemorative errors to share?


1976 Bicentennial Eisenhower Curved Clip Planchet Error - Obverse


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1976 Bicentennial Eisenhower Curved Clip Planchet Error - Reverse


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 Posted 09/30/2013  11:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sean H to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice example that you seldom see!
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Technically not the right forum for an Eisenhower dollar, but in the context of what you are trying to start here, I will allow it.

He is a nice one, by the way.
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in the context of what you are trying to start here, I will allow it


Thanks for letting commems to proceed jbuck ... IMHO his expert knowledge has earned a pass to address a key question about this thread ...

Would very much appreciate commems views on why he considers this Bicentennial Ike a commemorative coin? ... I see it as a one year exception to a long running series.

In the same light ... would commems consider the 1999 Lincoln Cent LP1-LP4 as commemorative coins?

To the coin ... fabulous example of what I am certain is a rarely encountered error ... as stated very difficult to obtain on large coins.

To the original question ...


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Anyone else have any commemorative errors to share?


I have a pile of them ... all the classic silver commemorative that I purchased through the years that were undergraded by PCGS.

David
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Why thank you kind sir!


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I have a pile of them...


Bring 'em on!

Commens, great post.
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Would very much appreciate commems views on why he considers this Bicentennial Ike a commemorative coin? ... I see it as a one year exception to a long running series.

In the same light ... would commems consider the 1999 Lincoln Cent LP1-LP4 as commemorative coins?
In the context of how the forums are divided, each of those should are normally posted in the US Modern forum with others in their series.

However, as we all know, opinions are wide in the realm of numismatics.

This exemption is based on precedent. He considers the 1932 Washington quarter a commemorative (a brilliant summary worth reading again), so I see no reason to doubt that he views bicentennial coins the same way. After all, the is the commemorative collector.
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 Posted 10/02/2013  9:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for understanding jbuck!


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Would very much appreciate commems views on why he considers this Bicentennial Ike a commemorative coin?

@nickelsearcher: I'll provide a quick response here, then follow it up with a more complete response via a write-up about circulating US commemoratives that I started (and forgot about!) months ago.

I believe the case for considering the quarter, half-dollar and dollar coins struck with the dual dates "1776-1976" as circulating commemoratives is firmly established in the Act that authorized the coins (Public Law 93-127).

The Act's title states "An Act to provide a new coinage design and date emblematic of the Bicentennial of the American Revolution for dollars, half dollars, and quarter dollars, to authorize the issuance of special silver coins commemorating the Bicentennial of the American Revolution, and for other purposes."

Very similar language is found within the text of the Act which states that the coins "shall bear a design determined by the Secretary [of the Treasury] to be emblematic of the Bicentennial of the American Revolution." The Act also specifies that the coins are to feature the emblematic "1776-1976" dual-date.

To me, the fact that it took an Act of Congress to have the coins struck along with the fact that the language of the Act was very clear in its intent regarding the coin's design and purpose makes it easy (for me) to consider these coins as circulating commemoratives. I see the language as being similar to that used in previous commemorative coin acts, with the primary differences being: a) the Bicentennial coinage Act does not feature a private sponsor, and b) it does not place a limit on the coinage of the copper-nickel circulation pieces.

Others may have a different view of these coins, but I believe they are true circulating commemoratives!


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I would be in the camp that some coins are circulating commemorative coins.

To include
Bicentennial 1776 - 1976 coins
State Quarter Territory ATB
Westward journey nickels
2009 Lincoln cents
1996 W Roosevelt dimes (well not circulating, but commemorating FDR)
2007 to date Presidential dollars

And maybe Native American small dollars.
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maybe the Sacs post '08
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