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1971 No S Proof Nickel Fake

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 Posted 01/06/2014  9:21 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Zimmy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Here is a listing on ebay that some poor soul paid $125. for a polished 1971-P nickel and thought they were getting a 1971 no s Proof nickel. Heavy bag marks, harshly cleaned services, lacks full steps (not even close) uneven rims, etc.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-5C-no-...047675.l2557
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 Posted 01/06/2014  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ouch ... agreed that the new owner will not be satisfied whenever they go to sell this.

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I suspect that the 'S' may have been ground, then buffed off.
Hard but not impossible to believe that it is a perfectly Grease Filled Die.
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This got me thinking, found at least 4 silver war nicks silver polished and being sold as BU nicks
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sel 691....so you think it is a proof coin?
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It looks like a '71 impaired proof in which case, it should bear an 'S' mint mark.
Impaired (usually from circulation) proofs are not really scarce, and if I was going to remove the 'S' from a coin, it would be from an example that would not be worth too much.
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Not withstanding the previous points I raised about it not being a proof, I have seen many and actually have found a few impaired proofs in circulation and none of them came even close to looking as beat up as this coin. They are plucked from circulation within a short time, exhibiting very light marks and very little wear. When you combine this, with the odds of a No S getting into circulation and with it failing the characteristics of a proof coin, I would think that it is obvious that this coin is a polished 1971-P that has seen its better days, not an extremely impaired proof that had its S mintmark removed. Maybe I am missing something? BTW, a 1971-S Proof nickel is worth pennies, even in Proof 65.
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I'm not sure where I stand on this one.

On one hand, it looks like a 1971 proof of some sort, either with a removed mint mark or (against all odds) an actual no-S.

On the other hand, more of the luster would have been worn off if it had been in circulation long enough for those scratches and hits to appear.

Therefore - I would agree with Zimmy and say that it is most likely a polished 1971.

If it stood any chance of being real, it would be slabbled and sell for much more than the list price. This example (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-RARE-N...m3f29c58b8d) is horribly damaged and in an NCS slab, but still sells for much more than the "nicer example" being discussed in this thread.
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Well, in all fairness, the slabbed one hasn't sold yet.
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