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One Of The Largest Purchases Of My Life......1810 Half Eagle

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 Posted 03/19/2014  02:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add burks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Dave!

I'm normally not far off on my grading of most other coins. It's the gold that gives me a terrible issue. I sat down with a young guy (early 20's, close to my age then) a few years ago at CONA. He was a grader from ICG. They had multiple slabs of $20 Double Eagles with numbers. You graded them, then they sat down and explained why it was a 60 vs 63. XF vs VF. Etc. Really informative but I FORGOT what he taught me!
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 Posted 03/19/2014  03:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
burks,
Pure guesswork on my part. Look at the two pictures:
One-Of-The-Largest-Purchases-Of-My-Life......1810-Half-Eagle
One-Of-The-Largest-Purchases-Of-My-Life......1810-Half-Eagle
The circled areas appear ever so slightly worn.
This is what puts the coin in an AU range.
Often the cheek and the feathers in the eagle are the places
to look, both for silver and gold coins.

Folks, do you agree?
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 Posted 03/19/2014  03:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ages ago, a dealer told me:
"Silver wears away. Gold wears down."
In my example, the gold appears to be a tad flatter, worn down.
When in doubt I remember his advice.
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 Posted 03/19/2014  11:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joseph7420 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU-58.
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 Posted 03/19/2014  11:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fayette1800 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll go AU-55 as well. Nice coin. With a kid in college and another in 3 years, I don't foresee me ever having a beauty like this one. Awesome.
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 Posted 03/19/2014  1:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnny54321 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for all of your comments! NGC GRADED AU-53

I had to make some sacrifices for this coin, selling some other valuable coins.....but this is exactly the type of coin I have been wanting for years. I don't mind discussing the price. I paid $7,550 for her with free shipping. I also got $100 in ebay bucks, so technically $7450 out of pocket.

In my opinion, gold with this much detail should be graded more on the remaining luster than on the actual detail.....as the detail on this coin could easily be equivalent to an MS grade. It is clear that there is a lot of luster remaining in the protected areas, but is also clear that there is friction based off of the areas with missing luster....like directly in front of Liberty's face and above the eagle's head. Also, I doubt the high points on the devices have any remaining luster. This is what I believe accounts for the lower AU grade. An AU-58 should have a bit more field luster, though this coin looks like it could easily be a 55. I will know more once I get it in hand, which should be tommorow.
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 Posted 03/19/2014  2:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
53? Wow. CAC would throw a Bean at that so hard it'd probably miss the slab. I could see it getting Gold at AU53.
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 Posted 03/19/2014  2:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnny54321 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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53? Wow. CAC would throw a Bean at that so hard it'd probably miss the slab. I could see it getting Gold at AU53


thanks.....it really helps to have this kind of reassurance after spending so much on a single coin.
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 Posted 03/19/2014  4:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Thundercoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just took a look at a couple AU-53s that sold at some of the major online auction sites. Yours is FAR superior to those. From a novice gold collector to a more experienced one, well done sir!
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 Posted 03/19/2014  5:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinsKelly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is an amazing coin, congratulations on the purchase. And SsuperDdave, that was a Ssuper explanation!
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I can't wait to see Johnny's pics. I'm thinkin it looks way better than the pics show right now, they're pretty washed out. Sweet coin !
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 Posted 03/19/2014  7:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well done indeed Johnny ... lovely coin.

Kudos as well to SsuperDdave for his excellent description of how to evaluate a coin grade by photo ... the absolute best I have ever read.

David
Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art
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 Posted 03/21/2014  12:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnny54321 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Received today!! First, I have to say that my pictures do this coin NO JUSTICE!! Some coins I can photograph well with my single incadescant lamp and cheap digital camera, and others I can't. Here are a few, but these hardly represent the beauty of this coin in hand.
One-Of-The-Largest-Purchases-Of-My-Life......1810-Half-Eagle
One-Of-The-Largest-Purchases-Of-My-Life......1810-Half-Eagle
One-Of-The-Largest-Purchases-Of-My-Life......1810-Half-Eagle
One-Of-The-Largest-Purchases-Of-My-Life......1810-Half-Eagle
One-Of-The-Largest-Purchases-Of-My-Life......1810-Half-Eagle
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johnny54321 looks like your very happy :)
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 Posted 03/21/2014  04:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add justin3651 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
wow, just wow. that coin is stunning. very very nice
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