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Moderator
 United States
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With an error this outstanding, the true nature of its' origin won't really affect the price. Like many things in numismatics, this discussion is for intellectual value only. Coin collectors are curious; we want to know why.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It's either a split die or a pair of radial, antipodal die cracks. It's hard to say which as both arms disappear into a swollen zone of subsidence (die subsidence error). Since the lower arm is tapering to a point, this makes me lean toward the second hypothesis. However, every grading service would list it as a split die.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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United States
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I see what you're saying, Mike. Die cracks don't displace devices, though. If it's still one piece, how can only *some* of it move? We certify Retained Cuds because we see features have moved. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Understanding the whole minting process better I see what your saying now dave....very interesting if its just cracked and no features are actually missing from the die? If I'mfollowing you correctly here...
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Awesome find I want one lol
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Awesome Error find. Congrats
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United States
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Slamnbass, I expect die cracks to just play through devices. When the crack morphs into a die break, metal is physically lost and the devices begin disappearing. This is steel. It doesn't just move out of the way.
That said, considering Mike's point about die collapse, the center of this coin probably never even touched the die so one can imagine why the whole break doesn't show. I bet I could overlay this and see all of LIBERTY slightly rotated.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Very nice coins both of them
Core stress, die may be broken from the inside and spread from the top area downwards but not completely across the face. In fact if the last bit of the obverse face was holding it together slowly tearing and breaking with every blow, then that would allow for some movement (twist) and swing of the 2 broken pieces before the final break, then it could seperate and move...just a thought
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I added the image to my files:  |
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Pillar of the Community
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Its worth doing a overlay of this coin. I do believe every grading service would list it as a split die. Still a overlay would be good for this coin,its good to see others have found this coin.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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What would be the point for an overlay? The date and mint marks are all in the same locations since 1990. The thing to check for is die markers to see of they match. That would prove they all were from the same die.
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 United States
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Thanks every for their opinion, I've learned a lot from you guys. I was going over a box of dimes, trying to fill some holes in my bluebook when I found that dime. It stuck out on my palm, and I said to myself wow someone really messed up this guy. I took it and placed it aside, and it was not till later when I examined it under light and magnifying glass. Did I noticed it was not tempered with, but actually a die crack.
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Valued Member
United States
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Would the dimensions on the coin help to tell if it was split, or is it to small to be noticeable in measurment?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Probably not. The collar makes the coins all the same diameter. Thus when they are out of the collar the planchet varies in diameter.  |
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