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Interesting Nero

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RIC 59, See picture below. I have a feeling about this coin.... Thoughts?



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You asked.

Screams 'Fake' to me (but what do I know?).
Rev. is too detailed for my liking. Not enough 'wear' overall. Surface too unblemished. I would stay well away unless it was an extreme 'bargain' price, in which case I would stay away, or I would put it on CCF and ask for 'opinions' .

Sorry I can't be of more help, (but I bought an 1865 'George Washington' Dollar).

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The style of the lettering and devices is not characteristic of a contemproary Roman die cutter. The die cutter does not have a Roman culture in his brain, and it shows in his work.
Fields are too flat.

What is the weight?

I would love to see the results of an XRF analysis looking for trace elements, not gold. I think is is made from modern coin gold of .900 fine or 22 carat.

I will bet that this piece has a very constant thickness.

If the weight is right, I would buy it for bullion value, and include it in my 'black' collection of fake ancient coins.


Die struck fake, and dangerous to a beginner.
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 Posted 04/23/2015  08:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add orfew to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Although I am a newbie, that coin does not look real. Is it just me or does the lettering on the obverse just seem too perfect. The "O" in Nero is a good example.
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The design is a common type for Denarii. Also, the beard - I dont recall Nero ever having a beard on contemporary coinage, but Lipanoff has pumped out beared issues.
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I'm just not familiar enough gold at all. I'm automatically suspicious of them because of that.

I'm interested however.
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When it comes to ancient gold I'm always suspicious and avoid them like the plague. That plus I could never afford to buy a real one. The forgers have become so good in the last few years that even the experts have been fooled. They have to result to more scientific test to determine if they are real or not. One thing I can say is that your example appears to be struck and not cast, the details are far better than what I have seen on the known fake lists. From it's appearance I would say that is possibly a real example. However I would not even consider buying it without it first being tested and certified.
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Confirmed, it is fake. Tried looking under known fakes, could not find, so if anyone comes across it link it on post. When I saw it I thought, modern. Clean. It has been pulled from auction, so that's good news. It smells, I collect gold and have become very familiar with solidi and aureus so I was highly suspicious, albeit I could not find a known fake.
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Good show on letting the auction house know. I thought it looked familiar and just recognized it as I was looking through the auction again now.
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