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 Posted 05/23/2016  10:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't expect bobby to do anything about those e-bay listings other than just admit that they are not professional e-bay sellers .
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Come on bobby , That's not the point. do you really condone this kind of behavior on e-bay ? what they are doing is grossly deceiving to anyone who knows nothing about coins.


Nothing deceiving about them at all. Picture, description, price. Pretty straight forward. Buy it or don't. I don't care where you sell your things, you're allowed to ask what you want for them.
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 Posted 05/23/2016  11:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add srs77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Come on bobby , That's not the point. do you really condone this kind of behavior on e-bay ? what they are doing is grossly deceiving to anyone who knows nothing about coins .


Really? What country do we live in? I've seen this so many times it's exhausting. Folks have the 'right' to ask whatever they want for items they are selling. I mean any amount they want. Whether we agree/condone it is completely irrelevant. This is America where capitalism lives and breathes.

If someone is willing to drop that chunk of change on those coins then guess what, that's their value at that time.

ebay is like one gigantic garage sale. Professional sellers on ebay is an oxymoron. There is no such thing. The old adage always wins, caveat emptor. You must become knowledgeable in what your buying or you'll be fleeced out of your underwear.

It's not our business to tell these sellers that they are ripping people off, it's the responsibility of the buyers to either buy or not buy based on what they know. If they don't know then they should keep their money in their pockets but if they choose not to then it's on them.

These ads, while laughable, are completely legal within the realm of ebay sales.

On a side note, keep up the great work Bobby on the items that are in violation (counterfeits). And, THANK YOU!
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 Posted 05/23/2016  1:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You guys are missing the point . I guess I don't see it your way because I'm not an e-bay seller .
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 Posted 05/23/2016  6:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add srs77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
T-BOP, think of it as going to a yard sale / garage sale. If you come across an item in a garage sale and the price is too high do you purchase it anyway? Or, do you leave it for the next guy? Do you go to the owner of the item and jump on them because their price is too high? That's the only way I can look at it. Currently these sellers own the coins. They have chosen to make them available to anyone who is willing to pay their price. It's their coin and their price. Buy it if you wish don't if you think it's too high. Obviously you're an educated buyer and know the prices on these coins are ridiculous. We're all in agreement with that. It's simply not against any rules on ebay (garage sale) nor am I personally willing to label someone as a person who is trying to rip anyone off. My dad taught me a lesson when I was a young boy. An item is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. If these coins sell then they had that value to someone. If they don't then the sellers will either need to keep the coins or lower their prices.

From a numismatist standpoint I completely understand where you're coming from but ebay is a gigantic garage sale, not your local coin shop. There are billions of overpriced items all over the board on that site. I always go by the moniker, tread lightly...
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 Posted 05/24/2016  11:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cuzzx to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I noticed some coin prices that were high this past weekend, a ms 70 ike for $93,000
another for $88,000.
today I was looking through my save to watch list and noticed that one seller had a coin for $20.00. it did not sale so he relisted it at $26.00.
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 Posted 05/24/2016  12:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add srs77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


It's the old saying throw something against the wall and see what sticks. It's not costing the seller anything to relist at the higher or lower price so why not?

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I would sugest that those of you who see these listings as bad, wrong or even worth ridicule spend some time looking through the French coin listings on ebay. That 41-s cent is down right affordable compared to some of the listings I see there.

And being an E-bay seller has nothing to do with how one sees this.

The listings may be stupid but that is not against any law or rule last I checked. Laugh and move on.
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I fail to understand why the fact that the French overprice their coins means that these specific listings should not be discussed (or even ridiculed).
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I sent the first seller a polite question about the "penny collection" that shows a single photo of a 1960-D Lincoln Cent for $2,500.

The seller's response was "The penny is old and its a collection that I have from diffrent years the only one that old that I have is a 1949 pennie."

So, in this case, it appears to be an incredibly naive (as to value of coins) person that does not know how to properly create an ebay listing. If they truly expect someone to pay them $2,500 for a "penny collection" with no photos of the collection and no description of what is in the collection, they are (how can I put this tactfully?) just dreaming.

It is not a "come on" to get an off ebay sale, or they would have responded to my inquiry differently.
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I agree, nss-52. A seller's "right" to ask what they want is beside the point. These listings aren't scams. They were created out of ignorance, which is the real issue in most of these cases.
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So I Can list on e-bay a badly rusted 1943-P WW2 Lincoln Cent, very rare wartime coin ! BIN -$1,000 . And e-bay will let it slide because the seller is not breaking any e-bay rules. and if he should happen to sell that very rare Lincoln for $1,000 e-bay will collect a nice fee .
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TBOP - Yep... That's it exactly. No different than someone at a garage sale asking $1000 for a rusted 43 Lincoln Cent. Same difference, not against the law and in America they have the right to ask whatever they want for property they own.

Again, I agree wholeheartedly that these listings are offensive but I keep my blood pressure down by laughing at them and moving on..
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 Posted 05/25/2016  11:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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So I Can list on e-bay a badly rusted 1943-P WW2 Lincoln Cent, very rare wartime coin ! BIN -$1,000 . And e-bay will let it slide because the seller is not breaking any e-bay rules.


And I pray ebay never decides to tell sellers how much we are allowed to ask for our stuff. Be careful what you wish for....
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 Posted 05/25/2016  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add srs77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bobby, I think that would be ebay's death knell. But you are absolutely correct, be careful what you wish for.
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